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barney45
Posts: 8
Registered: ‎09-04-2012

Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

I've had my Sure signal box working for many, many months, with firewall settings all fine. Last Thursday, I saw it had a steady power light but a slow-flashing internet light and no other lights and I had no Sure signal on my mobile phone. I did a hard reboot of the Sureb Signal box and left it over Easter while I was away (as I kow it can sometimes take 24 hourts or more). Today, three days later, it is still the same: steady power light; slow-flashing internet light. I've tried two more hard resets of the box and also tried rebooting my Netgear DGN1000 router - no change to its status. My internet has been working fine throughout, so why isn't the Sure Signal box connecting to the internet?

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Andy
Posts: 20,669
Registered: ‎25-11-2010

Re: Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

Hi barney45,

Can you take a look at our Sure Signal Troubleshooting thread, and then post back your results if you’re not directed to an existing thread?

Thanks

Andy
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barney45
Posts: 8
Registered: ‎09-04-2012

Re: Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

Yes, tried all that before I raised this support call. As I stated, I've already waited 3 days after a hard reset; I note there is no planned maintenance announced, my Sure Signal box was and still is registered, I have uPnP set, and I have all the ports , services and firewall settings in place, as per the support suggested.

As I said, my box has been working for many, many months and I've changed nothing. The powe rligth is on, but the internet connection light just flashes slowly, despite the fact that my internet connection has worked correctly throughout this period and still is fine.

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barney45
Posts: 8
Registered: ‎09-04-2012

Re: Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

Dear Vodafone Support, Any reply, please, I''m waiting here for a solution?

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FelixDaHousecat
Posts: 406
Registered: ‎07-12-2010

Re: Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

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Yo,

I'm sure the team will be with you as soon as they can. In the meantime, try the vss on another connection and let everyone know the results

FDH
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Wayne
Posts: 14,312
Registered: ‎04-08-2008

Re: Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

Hi barney45

 

Thanks for your post here. I’m sorry to hear that you are having problems with this. I appreciate how frustrating it must be for you.

In order to establish whether the Sure Signal is able to communicate with our NTP server, a pathping can be performed as a test. In order to do this, you'll firstly need to open the command prompt in Windows as follows:

-For XP just click Start > Run and type cmd then hit enter
-For Vista/Windows 7, press Start and type cmd into the search bar
-Right click the result and click "Run As Administrator

Once you're in the command prompt type in pathping 212.183.133.181, this will perform a trace route to the NTP server and will also show you the route it took to get there. One of the column will display packet loss, if this occurs before hitting our server then you'll need to contact your ISP for further assistance.

Also, can you go to www.speedtest.net, do a speedtest and post back the results?

 

I know that this has been working ok for a while now, but we need to check to ensure nothing on the line has changed with regards to speed and latency.

 

Thanks

 

Wayne

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barney45
Posts: 8
Registered: ‎09-04-2012

Re: Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

Thanks for the reply. My results are below. Please let me know what you think.

My speed test was 4.34 mbps upload and 0.36 mbps upload - about normal for around where I live (it's been the same for years).

My pathping results are below:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\User1>pathping 212.183.133.181

Tracing route to 212.183.133.181 over a maximum of 30 hops

  0  Computer [192.168.0.5]
  1  192.168.0.1
  2  esr6.kingston4.broadband.bt.net [217.47.46.145]
  3  217.47.46.30
  4  213.1.67.138
  5  213.1.79.34
  6  87.237.20.244
  7  bundle-ether1.lontr1.London.opentransit.net [193.251.255.101]
  8  level3-1.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.150.70]
  9  ae-1-51.edge4.London1.Level3.net [4.69.139.74]
 10  195.50.122.66
 11  85.205.116.2
 12     *        *        *
Computing statistics for 275 seconds...
            Source to Here   This Node/Link
Hop  RTT    Lost/Sent = Pct  Lost/Sent = Pct  Address
  0                                           Computer [192.168.0.5]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  1    2ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  192.168.0.1
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  2   29ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  esr6.kingston4.broadband.bt.net [2
17.47.46.145]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  3  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  217.47.46.30
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  4  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  213.1.67.138
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  5  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  213.1.79.34
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  6   34ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  87.237.20.244
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  7   36ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  bundle-ether1.lontr1.London.opentr
ansit.net [193.251.255.101]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  8   35ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  level3-1.GW.opentransit.net [193.2
51.150.70]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  9   35ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  ae-1-51.edge4.London1.Level3.net [
4.69.139.74]
                                2/ 100 =  2%   |
 10   37ms     2/ 100 =  2%     0/ 100 =  0%  195.50.122.66
                               98/ 100 = 98%   |
 11  ---     100/ 100 =100%     0/ 100 =  0%  85.205.116.2

Trace complete.

C:\Users\User1>

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barney45
Posts: 8
Registered: ‎09-04-2012

Re: Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

Sorry to nag, guys, but yesterday it took from 9:30pm to 04:12am (over six and a half hours) to respond and I had to give up waiting.

Tonight, I posted my pingpath results at 7:23pm and it's now past 9:45pm and no reply yet.

At this rate, it's going to take ages to diagnose the problem. Can you respond faster, please?

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barney45
Posts: 8
Registered: ‎09-04-2012

Re: Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

Guys - come on....I've been waiting aboput 12 hours with no reply and waited six and a half hours yesterday. That is an almost zero service level - please take this as a compalint. I also note there are 32 users on the forum with almost identical problems. What's going on?

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Tech Team
Lee
Posts: 17,230
Registered: ‎27-10-2008

Re: Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

[ Edited ]

Hi barney45,

 

Thanks for your patience. The eForum is not a live chat function and posts are worked in chronological order so all our customers get the same, fair treatment they deserve. I hope you can understand that.

 

Looking at your pathping there's 100% packet loss at hop numbers 3, 4 and 5 which are BT addresses as well as hop 10 before it reaches our servers. I've checked the IP for hop 10 and it belongs to an address in Leman Street in London.

 

You can check the IP addresses here.

 

Have you tried the suggestion from FelixDaHousecat? That will rule in or out the VSS being at fault.

 

Cheers,

 

Lee

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barney45
Posts: 8
Registered: ‎09-04-2012

Re: Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

I do agreed that calls should be dealt with in chronological order, but I waiting 7 hours on day 1 then 12 hours on day 2 then 12.5 hours on day 3 means there is something with the number of staff you have fielding the support calls. Did my complaint get actioned? If not, can you tell me the means of formally complaining, please.

 

Secondly, Yes, I tried the VSS on another router port (and I swapped the ethernet cable too) before I even raised the call.

 

Thirdly: You mention hops losing packets.That's a technical statement but not a solution, so I don't know what you expected next?

 

As it happens - FOR NO APPARENT REASON (Idid nothing and it looks like Vodafone also did nothing) - my VSS started working today. I did another pingpath (results below). It shows 100% packets lost at hops 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 13 and 15, so I don't believe lost packets prove anything. Perhaps pings are just blocked by firewalls.

CAN I ASK YOU TO GET BACK TO ME WITH AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE I COULD LOSE CONNECTIVITY AGAIN AND SO FAR I HAVE NO APPROACH TO DIAGNOSE THE PROBLEM AND NO MEANS OF RESOLVING A RECURRANCE BECAUSE THE DIAGNOSTICS SO FAR APPEAR TO PROVE NOTHING.

 

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\User1>pingpath 213.183.133.181
'pingpath' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Users\User1>pathping 213.183.133.181

Tracing route to ip-133-181.sn-213-183.eutelia.it [213.183.133.181]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  0  Computer [192.168.0.7]
  1  192.168.0.1
  2  esr5.kingston4.broadband.bt.net [217.47.46.144]
  3  217.47.46.13
  4  213.1.67.130
  5  213.1.78.252
  6  213.1.79.34
  7  87.237.20.244
  8  bundle-ether1.lontr1.London.opentransit.net [193.251.255.101]
  9  te0-3-0-6.ccr22.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.14.153]
 10  te0-4-0-0.ccr22.par01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.2.254]
 11  te0-0-0-6.ccr21.par01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.39.81]
 12  te0-3-0-0.ccr21.mrs01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.59.226]
 13  te1-1.ccr01.nce02.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.3.158]
 14  te1-1.ccr01.goa01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.48.1]
 15  te1-2.ccr01.rom01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.2.10]
 16  149.6.22.50
 17     *        *        *
Computing statistics for 400 seconds...
            Source to Here   This Node/Link
Hop  RTT    Lost/Sent = Pct  Lost/Sent = Pct  Address
  0                                           Computer [192.168.0.7]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  1    0ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  192.168.0.1
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  2   18ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  esr5.kingston4.broadband.bt.net [2
17.47.46.144]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  3  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  217.47.46.13
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  4  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  213.1.67.130
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  5  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  213.1.78.252
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  6  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  213.1.79.34
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  7   23ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  87.237.20.244
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  8   21ms     2/ 100 =  2%     2/ 100 =  2%  bundle-ether1.lontr1.London.opentr
ansit.net [193.251.255.101]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  9   20ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  te0-3-0-6.ccr22.lon13.atlas.cogent
co.com [130.117.14.153]
                                1/ 100 =  1%   |
 10  ---     100/ 100 =100%    99/ 100 = 99%  te0-4-0-0.ccr22.par01.atlas.cogent
co.com [130.117.2.254]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 11   30ms     1/ 100 =  1%     0/ 100 =  0%  te0-0-0-6.ccr21.par01.atlas.cogent
co.com [154.54.39.81]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 12   57ms     2/ 100 =  2%     1/ 100 =  1%  te0-3-0-0.ccr21.mrs01.atlas.cogent
co.com [154.54.59.226]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 13  ---     100/ 100 =100%    99/ 100 = 99%  te1-1.ccr01.nce02.atlas.cogentco.c
om [130.117.3.158]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 14   75ms     3/ 100 =  3%     2/ 100 =  2%  te1-1.ccr01.goa01.atlas.cogentco.c
om [130.117.48.1]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 15  ---     100/ 100 =100%    99/ 100 = 99%  te1-2.ccr01.rom01.atlas.cogentco.c
om [130.117.2.10]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 16   64ms     1/ 100 =  1%     0/ 100 =  0%  149.6.22.50

Trace complete.

C:\Users\User1>

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Tech Team
Tech Team
Lee
Posts: 17,230
Registered: ‎27-10-2008

Re: Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

Hi barney45,

 

Thanks for coming back to me.

 

Looking at your pathping it would appear that your ISP has made a change to your servers as you we're routing through London yesterday but are no longer based on your latest post.

 

This is something we have no control over and therefore I'm unable to offer another reason for the service kicking back into life.

 

I'm really pleased you're back online though :smileyhappy:

 

Cheers,

 

Lee

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barney45
Posts: 8
Registered: ‎09-04-2012

Re: Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

Lee,

Sorry, but I'm far from happy with the responses. They are too slow and do not address my concerns:

 

1. Can you answer the question I previously asked "Did my complaint get actioned? If not, can you tell me the means of formally complaining, please" - because I wish to formally complain about the slow support responses;

 

2. Why did your previous support call imply that the problem was with packets getting lost, when this demonstrably is not the cause because the latest pathping shows 100% loss in 5 of the steps, yet my service is now fine?

 

3. I did not make you aware, but this is the third time I have lost service for serveral days, so it's not acceptable to me that you don't know what's happening. If, as your post on 11th April said, the pathping showed my VSS box was reaching your servers, then why can't you diagnose the problem?

 

Thanks

Keith

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James
Posts: 18,131
Registered: ‎21-07-2008

Re: Steady power light; slow-flashing internet light

[ Edited ]

Hi barney45,

 

The Vodafone eForum currently work on and around a 24 hour SLA however, there is times where you post can be answered in under this time depending on the amount of posts and emails that we are working with at the time.

 

When it comes to making a complaint, this must be done in lines with our complaints procedure.

 

When it comes to the Sure Signal there are a number of factors that we will look for when diagnosing an issue including any packet loss as it is this packet loss that can cause the required VPN connection to fail meaning that the Sure Signal can not connect to the server to give the signal to your phone.

 

We will also look at the IP address, the speed of the line and also the ping time between hops, unfortunately if any of these are out of the parameters required for the Sure Signal it means that it won’t work and they are something that we don’t have any control over.

 

Although the Sure Signal has pinged our server it doesn’t mean that a VPN connection is being made and a signal is being provided, unfortunately the manufacturer has not given us any tools to be able to ping through the Sure Signal from our end to see what is happening which is why we ask all of our users for specific information when diagnosing different situations.

 

I’m sure that there would also be some legal implications of having such a system in place if it existed.

 

Unfortunately due to the nature of the Femto network it is impossible to give all of our users service all of the time and although we do our best to provide the service from our end there is a lot of circumstances that we have no control over that can affect the usage of the Sure Signal including your router setup and any changes that can be made by your ISP at any time.

 

James

 

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