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ribble
Posts: 12
Registered: ‎29-07-2012

Unable to connect new SureSignal

I have registered the VSS box 24 hrs ago. Every attempt to connect to the internet fails . The system and phone lights flash for about 10 minutes and then go out leaving the power light. The box is connected to the router and allocated an IP address (ping to this address works).  Router is Netgear DG834G, VSS serial no is 40120936360, ISP is Plusnet. Incidentally the instructions say the box will restart the configuration process after 5 mins which it does not. I have tried port forwarding to no avail ( provided I did it correctly). Help needed

Regards

Rod

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Matt
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Registered: ‎15-09-2009

Re: Unable to connect new SureSignal

Hi

Can you take a look at our Sure Signal Troubleshooting thread, and then post back your results if you’re not directed to an existing thread?

Thanks

Matt

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ribble
Posts: 12
Registered: ‎29-07-2012

Re: Unable to connect new SureSignal

Have checked trouble shooting.

The VSS is registered more that 24hrs ago

Vss connected to router and allocated an ip address ( it can be pinged)

Internet working

Router rebooted

Port forwarding tried on ports TCP 50,8 UDP 4500,500,123

MTU is 1458 ( believed default)

VSS reset

All to no effect. system and power lights flash together then both go off after about 10mins. There is then no further activity.

Equipment details in previous message.

Regards

Rod

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Dave
Posts: 10,022
Registered: ‎28-11-2008

Re: Unable to connect new SureSignal

Hi Ribble,

 

Looking at our systems, there is no mention of a "last contact date", which suggests that the Sure Signal has been unable to connect to our servers and receive a "handshake" back. This would explain why you would have had no progress after the first attempt to initiate the box.

 

What we need to do is work out why your connection is not working, so to help us see where the issue lies can you follow the below steps for me?

 

 - Can you perform a factory reset for me? This will trigger another attempt to connect.

 

  • Hold down the reset button until all the lights show (about 30 seconds)
  • Keeping the reset button held down, remove then re-insert the power lead.
  • Once all lights display release the reset button.
  • The Sure Signal will come online in around 1 hour.

 

 - Can you perform a speed test and a traceroute for me and post the results here?

 

  • Click on Start  and select Run
  • Type CMD into the Run box and press enter/click ok
  • A black box will appear.
  • In this box type tracert 212.183.133.177    press Enter
  • Paste the output of this command into your reply.

 - What is the IP address assigned to the Sure Signal? We need this to ensure that this is not blocked for any reason.

 

 

 - Can you see two working lights alongside the Ethernet Port on the back of the box? If not, do you have an alternate cable you can try?

 

 

 - Can you try amending the MTU to 1500 - or the maximum available if that is lower - for me? This governs the size of the packets the router handle, so if it is blocking larger ones then the connection will fail.

 

 

With this information, I'm confident we can get to the bottom of this for you.

 

Dave

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ribble
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Registered: ‎29-07-2012

Re: Unable to connect new SureSignal

Reset done as follows. Held down reset. Power light is on then system & phone lights flash once. Removed power whilst holding reset. Plug in power. All lights flash once power remains on. After about 1 min System & phone lights flash together and continue for 10mins then go off. Power light remains on.

 

Speed test download 4.2 mbs/s, upload 0.4 mbs/s

 

Tracert as below

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\user>tracert 212.183.133.177

Tracing route to 212.183.133.177 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    49 ms    37 ms    53 ms  lo0-central10.pcl-ag04.plus.net [195.166.128.185]
  3    37 ms    36 ms    37 ms  link1-central10.pcl-gw01.plus.net [84.93.249.96]

  4    37 ms    36 ms    36 ms  xe-1-2-0.pcl-cr01.plus.net [212.159.1.4]
  5    37 ms    36 ms    37 ms  ae1.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.0]
  6    39 ms    93 ms    38 ms  LNDGW2.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.124]
  7    38 ms    38 ms    38 ms  85.205.116.10
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.

 

Every other hop gave Request Timed out so not included.

IP address assigned to VSS is 192.168.0.4

MTU set to 1500

I have reverted to no manual port forwarding at the moment

Regards

Rod

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ribble
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Registered: ‎29-07-2012

Re: Unable to connect new SureSignal

Hello is anybody there! It has been nearly 24hrs since I posted the requested information and no response yet.

Regards

Rod

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ribble
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Registered: ‎29-07-2012

Re: Unable to connect new SureSignal

Any chance of a response please

ribble

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DaveCD
Posts: 4,266
Registered: ‎26-07-2011

Re: Unable to connect new SureSignal

Hi ribble

 

Please accept my apologies for the delay in responding, we are a small team in huge demand but now I am here I would love to take a look at this for you.

 

I can see from your tracert that this is connecting with our servers, the IP address that you have provided is an internal address, please can you provide an external IP address, you can discover this from this address http://www.whatismyip.com/, once we have this we can check this against our whitelist.

 

I have resynced your device and this may be the jump start we need, please let me know if this resolves the issue.

 

Many Thanks

 

DaveCD

eForum Team

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ribble
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Registered: ‎29-07-2012

Re: Unable to connect new SureSignal

Hello DaveCD

The resync did not work. lights go off after 10mins. My external ip address is 87.114.153.236. Just to confirm I am able to ping the VSS on its allocated router address from my computer.

Ribble

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ribble
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Registered: ‎29-07-2012

Tech Team too busy

Hello again. I guess you must be too busy to continue with fault finding. I have beem unable to connect my new VSS sincie i was first plugged in last Sunday. The fault finding proceedure is now only resulting in one message from the Tech Team every 24hrs! I was provided with the VSS by customer service to overcome a lack of signal in my area due to a cell fault which has been going on for at least 2 months. I have no indoor or outdoor signal.  Please try and find time to complete the fault finding

Regards

Ribble

 

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Simon
Posts: 5,897
Registered: ‎10-01-2011

Re: Tech Team too busy

Hi ribble

 

Thanks for your reply. As DaveCD states further up we are a small team and we're in huge demand at the moment. I can assure you that we're never to busy to answer peoples posts and we'll always ensure that where a member of the community is unable to assist whilst we're working through our posts that we're always on hand to answer. We do answer them on a first come first served basis and we do answer them as quickly as possible. 

 

I've checked your IP address and it is on the whitelist so this isn't causing the issue. As your traceroute, speed and ping tests are fine and your IP is whitelisted the only final thing that we would like to try is the device on an alternative connection. If you could connect the Sure Signal to a friend or family members connection and let us know the results. This will help us to rule in or out the possibility of the device itself being faulty.

 

Thanks

 

Simon

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ribble
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Registered: ‎29-07-2012

Re: Tech Team too busy

Hello Simon

Thanks for the quick reply. I will try and find another connection to try but it may take a while

Regards

Ribble

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ribble
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Registered: ‎29-07-2012

Re: Tech Team too busy

Hello I have tried the VSS box at a friends. He has a BT router and BT as the ISP. The VSS sprang into life and worked after about 1hr so we can assume the box is OK. He said that initially the lights flashed for about 4 mins then went out flashing again after 5mins. At this point he left it on and about 1hr later it was connected to the phone.

When plugged into my router the light flash for 10mins the go off never to come on again. I assume this means that the box never reaches your server. Since the Tracert test reached your server I am at a loss

Regards

Ribble

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ribble
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Registered: ‎29-07-2012

pathping dropped packets

Having looked through other forum entries with the same problem I did a pathping to 212.183.133.181 as follows

C:\Documents and Settings\user>pathping -h 8 212.183.133.181

Tracing route to 212.183.133.181 over a maximum of 8 hops

  0  SOHO [192.168.0.3]
  1  192.168.0.1
  2  lo0-central10.pcl-ag07.plus.net [195.166.128.188]
  3  link8-central10.pcl-gw02.plus.net [84.93.249.206]
  4  xe-2-2-0.pcl-cr02.plus.net [212.159.1.14]
  5  ae1.ptw-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.2]
  6  ae2.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.4]
  7  LNDGW2.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.124]
  8  85.205.116.2

Computing statistics for 225 seconds...
            Source to Here   This Node/Link
Hop  RTT    Lost/Sent = Pct  Lost/Sent = Pct  Address
  0                                           SOHO [192.168.0.3]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  1    0ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  192.168.0.1
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  2   41ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  lo0-central10.pcl-ag07.plus.net [195.166.128.188]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  3   55ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  link8-central10.pcl-gw02.plus.net [84.93.249.206]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  4   39ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  xe-2-2-0.pcl-cr02.plus.net [212.159.1.14]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  5   39ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  ae1.ptw-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.2]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  6   39ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  ae2.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.4]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  7  ---     100/ 100 =100%   100/ 100 =100%  LNDGW2.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.124]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  8   37ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  85.205.116.2
                              100/ 100 =100%   |
  9  ---     100/ 100 =100%     0/ 100 =  0%  SOHO [0.0.0.0]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\user>

 

 As you can see it drops all packets at hop 7 [195.66.224.124]

This is the same address problem that others with  the same faullt have who have posted pathping results.

There is obviously a problem at this point do you know what it is.

Ribble

 

 

 

 

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James
Posts: 18,048
Registered: ‎21-07-2008

Re: pathping dropped packets

Hey ribble,

 

Thanks for getting back to us.

 

As this works on your friend’s router it indicates that the Sure Signal is fine and there is a problem with the router configuration or a compatibility issue.

 

In regards to the traceroute and the complete packet loss at hop 7 it would suggest that there is either an issue with the routing of the internet connection or something is blocking the connection as this IP address is registered to the London Internet Exchange.

 

The only way to know if it is a configuration issue would be to test a different router at your address although I understand that this may not always be possible.

 

However, just to make sure that all the ports are setup correctly can you confirm if you have specified an IP range when you set these up or if you just set them to always allow.

 

If you set these to always allow I would recommend specifying a start and end IP address of 212.183.131.128 and 212.183.131.191.

 

James

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ribble
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Registered: ‎29-07-2012

Re: pathping dropped packets

Hello there I'm not sure what you mean by setting up a ip range. The router allows everything outbound and in setting up port forwarding (i.e inbound ) the VSS ip address is the only ip address specified. Where should I be setting the address range you specified.

ribble

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DaveCD
Posts: 4,266
Registered: ‎26-07-2011

Re: pathping dropped packets

Hi ribble

 

Thank you for your post.

 

You will need to set the IP ranges in your routers dashboard, unfortunately this is not something we support.

 

Please ensure that you include this information as taken from our Sure Signal Troubleshooting Thread under Steady Power Light as per your description in your original post.

 

Manually configure your Router to allow port-forwarding.
In most cases, routers support a system called "Universal Plug-n-Play" or UPnP, which will setup port-forwarding for you automatically. If you have a complicated network setup, or a complex router, you may be required to enter these settings in manually.

The following details list the IP addresses and Port Numbers that need to be forwarded to your Sure Signal's internal IP address. For detailed instructions on how to do this, we recommend either contacting your ISP or Router Manufacturer, or referring to the Default Guide for your particular make and model, over at http://portforward.com

Destination IP Addresses:
212.183.133.177
212.183.133.178
212.183.133.179
212.183.133.181
212.183.133.182
212.183.131.128/26

Ports and Protocols:
Port 50 - TCP/IP
Port 4500 - UDP
Port 500 - UDP
Port 123 - UDP

Port 8 - TCP/IP

Port 1723 (BT Customers only) - TCP/UDP

Please note that in the above list of IP addresses, the notation "212.183.131.128/26" means the complete range of IP addresses between 212.183.131.128 and 212.183.131.191

Your Router will also need to be able to assign the Sure Signal with a DNS Server address via DHCP.

 

Let me know how you get on.

 

Many Thanks

 

DaveCD

eForum Team

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