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14: Advanced member

Given the news that Google have been forced by dictator trump to revoke Android licences to Huawei 

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Where does that leave updates for us now? 

If our devices are to become sitting ducks security wise (most of us are sensible and won't install malware but drive by attacks on the web happen) it's not like overlord trump's going to listen to us and say "go on little Paul. Have your updates I won't look" 

 

If anything does this mean Vodafone can accelerate the latest and possibly final patches we're allowed for our phones please?

 

 

 

Paul - Blogger at imwellconfused.me.uk @hooker1uk 

Current devices: Nokia e7-00, Smart ultra 7 - archos xenon 96 

Disclosure! I review devices, products and services in partnership with Vodafone UK on imwellconfused uk. Anything I post here is not affiliated or endorsed by Vodafone UK. 

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17: Community Champion

Hi @hooker1uk  this only relates to the next versions of android and phones. Current versions will still be supported for apps and security patches. 

 

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The only problem that that I can see is what happens to an existing device if the owner wants to download the next version of Android?? 

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4: Newbie

Can we put any message re Google's position with a huge caveat. Google are studying carefully the executive order and, given how Trump works, things may change ie things might improve for us with phones or get far, far worse. Who knows! Currently if you have a phone things don't change except we can't have the new version of android later in the year. We just have to currently sit tight and see how things play out unfortunately. 

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7: Helper

Huawei have now released their own statement :-

 

"Huawei has made substantial contributions to the development and growth of Android around the world. As one of Android’s key global partners, we have worked closely with their open-source platform to develop an ecosystem that has benefitted both users and the industry.
Huawei will continue to provide security updates and after-sales services to all existing Huawei and Honor smartphone and tablet products, covering those that have been sold and that are still in stock globally.
We will continue to build a safe and sustainable software ecosystem, in order to provide the best experience for all users globally."

 

https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_will_keep_providing_security_updates_and_aftersales_services_to_exis...

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3: Seeker

From what we know so far, old devices will still currently support app updates through Google's Play Store. However, Huawei devices won't be getting the next (Android Q) or any future OS upgrades.

 

Furthermore, most phone manufacturers are given details of security risks and software issues at least a month in advance. Allowing companies time to run tests and make sure there are no issues with their devices. As such, Huawei will now only receive the information the same day the public are informed of the vulnerabilities; meaning your device could possibly go weeks or months without the patch until Huawei has time to do their tests.

 

I am a P20 Pro user and my handset is less than 12months old (and part of 24 month contract). Not only is it frustrating knowing that my device is now 'at its peak' no longer being able to download any newer version of android, but the lack of up to date security is a major concern.

 

I implore Vodafone to offer their existing customers options to upgrade their handsets early.

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13: Advanced Member

All sales of Huawei phones should be stopped. Until this is sorted, who would want to buy a Huawei phone?

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2: Seeker

Agreed. I brought one online Sunday night literally hours before this all kicked off and it arrived today. I haven't even bothered opening it yet as unsure what to do. Could really do with some official statement/advice from Vodafone although I accept they probably don't really know what's going to happen either.

 

I'm just a bit unsure as don' want to pay charges to send it back (and I've really been looking forward to getting phone also ) only for it to not be as bad as first thought and then wish I'd kept the phone!

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7: Helper

When you finally decide to take the leap and jump from apple to android and this happens 🤦🏼‍♀️. 

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3: Seeker

Apparently it's not only Google that this ban has a major effect. Huawei still source a large amount of tech from the US, like Apple and Samsung rely on each other. As such, sourcing important components for the device is potentially at a halt given no US company can trade with the company without governments concession. 

 

It still outstands me that Vodafone is yet to make an official statement. 

 

For those who bought a Huawei phone in the last 14days can return it no questions asked. Those within 30 days can argue they bought it for XYZ reasons, and that it no it longer offers reason Z. 

 

However, those of us stranded mid contract the future looks bleak. With a handset worth far less within 24hours, and unable to offer the full features we may have had originally opted to purchase for.

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2: Seeker

I just spoke to a Vodafone represenatative on live chat who informed me that the whole Huawei thing is completely "False News" Amzing news.....wonder if Google and Donald Trump know about this :-

Md: There is no such update to ban Huawei phones , you can continue to use as you've been using this.

Me: so the recent news is all false? Correct?

Md: Yes absolutely , this is false news , please ignore them. as we investigated already then updating our customers to use the phone as normal ,

Me: So I can announce to the world that google banning huawei updates is all false?

You would have thought this would have been in the news already if this isnt going to happen

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2: Seeker

@chris_cardiff wrote:

Apparently it's not only Google that this ban has a major effect. Huawei still source a large amount of tech from the US, like Apple and Samsung rely on each other. As such, sourcing important components for the device is potentially at a halt given no US company can trade with the company without governments concession. 

 

It still outstands me that Vodafone is yet to make an official statement. 

 

For those who bought a Huawei phone in the last 14days can return it no questions asked. Those within 30 days can argue they bought it for XYZ reasons, and that it no it longer offers reason Z. 

 

However, those of us stranded mid contract the future looks bleak. With a handset worth far less within 24hours, and unable to offer the full features we may have had originally opted to purchase for.


Ive had mine for 40 days and was given the swift 

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3: Seeker

Seems Vodafone's advisors have no idea what is going on. When I spoke to online support, I was told to take my phone in for repair?

 

For this reason Vodafone need to take action, or least make a statment where they (and their customers) stand.

 

In addition, Vodafone use Huawei technology in the core parts of European technology. Admitting fault or possible flaws with any of their devices could put them considerably back in the launch of 5G in comparison to their competitors.

 

 


@jordanruby wrote:

I just spoke to a Vodafone represenatative on live chat who informed me that the whole Huawei thing is completely "False News" Amzing news.....wonder if Google and Donald Trump know about thi

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7: Helper

I also spoke to Vodafone live chat who stated that Huawei have a back up plan and we need to wait for updates. 

 

I've had my phone for about 45days and was told there's no plans to allow us to swap and if I wanted to then I'd have to pay or trade it in against a new handset (which I literally just did). Guess we gota wait until August now.

 

However, from what I've read, the app store being developed by Huawei will be like the amazon one which consists of essentially 3 apps. So yay. Lets hope they can pull something out the bag with the US! 

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2: Seeker

@chris_cardiff wrote:

Seems Vodafone's advisors have no idea what is going on. When I spoke to online support, I was told to take my phone in for repair?

 

For this reason Vodafone need to take action, or least make a statment where they (and their customers) stand.

 

In addition, Vodafone use Huawei technology in the core parts of European technology. Admitting fault or possible flaws with any of their devices could put them considerably back in the launch of 5G in comparison to their competitors.

 

 


@jordanruby wrote:

I just spoke to a Vodafone represenatative on live chat who informed me that the whole Huawei thing is completely "False News" Amzing news.....wonder if Google and Donald Trump know about thi


 

I spoke with the Tech Team first. They said that because I was a loyal customer they would exchange the phone in store despite me having it for 42 days. They couldnt tell me what phones I could change to so I contacted another department to ask what I was entitled to. They then told me I couldnt exchange phones afterall because I am 12 days over the 30 day cooling off period.....and anyhow its all false new and nothing is going to happen so there is no need to change


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13: Advanced Member

Huawei might soon have their own app store, but it's google apps I want. I want gmail, google maps, etc. not some clone created by Huawei. If I was looking or a new phone now, I would be avoiding Huawei. 

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3: Seeker

@chistery wrote:

Huawei might soon have their own app store, but it's google apps I want. I want gmail, google maps, etc. not some clone created by Huawei. If I was looking or a new phone now, I would be avoiding Huawei.


I agree, and this also means we will be reyling on developer investing in creating apps for the new platform. Given the additional cost this would incur, including the additional patches and updates that would be required means its very likely we'll be left with little to no app content.

 

Given the limited 3month extention already recieved between Google and Huawei, this does not give developers much opportunity to supply these additional app versions.

 

In addition, I have disliked the mild personalisation Huawei has made on the Android OS stock from the offset (I even run an alternate launcher to hide those hideous icons and homescreen). I'm not sure I could handle an entire OS in the same vein. 

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3: Seeker

With the loss of these core functions this renders the phone not fit for the purpose people were advised would be features useable when they entered into the contracts. 

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14: Advanced member

Vodafone's statement is currently vague

 

https://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Latest-news/Huawei-20-05-2019/td-p/2633290

 

But rightly so as this is a huge thing going on and not the blame of Vodafone. What winds me up is the us government accuse Huawei of spying when they've been installing spy tools in network infrastructure for years Source

The worse case with Huawei was they found a telnet diagnostic port in their gear that they thought they'd removed from a previous build. But seriously low risk in comparison. But they are banned

 

 

For now our devices will work and the Huawei app store is decent. I'm not too worried but I'll say this given the potential for things to go south.  But have faith in both Vodafone and Huawei for now

Paul - Blogger at imwellconfused.me.uk @hooker1uk 

Current devices: Nokia e7-00, Smart ultra 7 - archos xenon 96 

Disclosure! I review devices, products and services in partnership with Vodafone UK on imwellconfused uk. Anything I post here is not affiliated or endorsed by Vodafone UK. 

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1: Seeker

clearly people havent been reading the new os thats getting released

 

they nowhere near to finishing as it could be 2020 and it was made for china only so now they after edit it for global use but another issue is there be no google store

 

they after make there own which means they after ask developers to make new apps such as barclays etc to be added to there own software store which will be a big failure since amazon was a big mess fail and huawei are going same route 

 

but to be honest i think huawei know they stuffed and making excuses up to keep people buying huawei phones ive just sold my new honor 10 as i know prices are going to drop soon and be worth nothing

 

 

looks like there be no more sales of huawei since any newer models that get released wont have google

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