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01-11-2022 09:33 PM
Dear Vodafone,
It is time you admit that you are applying traffic shaping on your internet connection during the evenings.
I have always wondered why some traffic goes through better than other in the evenings.
I have done extensive testing in the past few days and I have come across to the below findings:
Internet connection speeds drop down to miserable 2-3 megabits download during the evenings / peak time. Upload though goes well and I'd say it is intact.
So I have done some testing. I have connected to different VPN providers to the servers nearby in the UK as well as abroad as far as Iceland and Lithuania.
And guess what - Over the VPN I get 200+ mbps results, immediately as I drop out from VPN and do the test on a clean line I again get those miserable few megabits.
Now if you are technical enough you must understand the irony here.
Going through VPN channel always should give you lower speeds as extra hops and conditions involved in the traffic/equipment. However when on VPN, speed test results are always better. Always, not sometimes, but always. And considerably much better than having connection without being wrapped up in VPN.
This indicates only one thing - QOS/Traffic shaping is in place with Vodafone during peak times.
Tell me, Vodafone, please, why when I am paying for 900mbps I am getting the service of a few megabits during peak times? And please, keep that rubbish to yourself when you start stating - oh it is probably your router, your Wi-Fi and so on. No it is not! I know it is not. I am getting exactly the same results on wired connection using Vodafone or any other router. To be precise your router is a piece of junk that is good for grandmas who watch BBC iPlayer and send three WhatsApp messages a day. I am and advanced user, a technician in fact, with 20+ years of IT support under my belt.
It is not my router to blame, not my corporate grade wireless access point, not even cheap Vodafone router to blame, it is the policies that Vodafone has set on the back end to shape the traffic during busiest periods.
And it is not fair. I am paying for 900mbps service, yet during evenings I get 300 times slower speeds than I am paying for. Even daytime I rarely reach anything more than 500mbps, it doesn't really bother me that much as I consider speeds above 100mbps acceptable and I simply have no patience to call your India-based call centres and speak to so called "experts" who read from the script, have little to no actual knowledge, and won't deviate from script that they read from the knowledge-base and give a pre-defined answers from templates.
Explain this please, how is this fair, and how is this a good value for money that I am paying? I am actually considering leaving Vodafone, at least when I had broadband over copper line I was getting consistent speeds 24/7. Heck, even with 3 mobile 4G connection I had better speeds than with you guys!
I see no reason why I should be utilising VPN in order to increase my internet browsing experience. It is an extra expense as well as extra burden that I have to go through in order to reach acceptable connection speeds.
Three days ago, in the evening I was trying to download 5 gigabyte Windows 10 ISO file from Microsoft, I was getting estimated time of download of 7 hours over 900mbps FTTP line. Makes sense? - Thought so, it does not make sense to me either.
Feel free to reach out to me for troubleshooting if you are brave enough to deal with me, I promise you, I won't go easy on you, but I promise to be reasonable and respectful. However I won't take your nonsense and won't accept that it is something to do with my equipment, because I know it is not the equipment.. It is not, and I know, period!
I have done plenty of testing internally, I have tested my independent wireless AP throughput over local network and I have amazing results as long as Vodafone is not in the picture. Anything routed through Vodafone internet link is rubbish unless I wrap that device that is reaching out to the internet to VPN.
I really don't enjoy having to jump through the hoops just to have something that should be provided to me already because it is a contractual obligation. I expect the service to be delivered as per contract, not some lame excuses from cheap labour agent somewhere in India who has no idea what he is talking about.
So to sum this up:
From 18:00 onwards to around 22-24h connection speeds drop dramatically to miserable few megabits, sometimes if lucky 30-40mbps, never goes above 100.
No difference if Vodafone or other independent router / access point used, connection still rubbish.
When on VPN, then connection is much better - going to 200-300mbps speeds.
Outside those hours connection speeds are much better, good enough not to complain about.
I work from home supporting different timezones and working during evenings is a challenge due to this issue. I certainly have an impact on my work performance due to this.
My equipment/plan:
Cityfibre FTTP 900mbps.
Draytek Vigor 2925 router
Ubiquiti Unifi UAP-nanoHD.
Location: Aberdeen
To add a cherry on top of this cake: it is not only me that is having this issue here in Aberdeen. There are 3 more of us (and I can provide their details on request) who are subscribed to Cityfibre/Vodafone FTTP service and we all are having exactly the same issue during evenings. We all live in different areas of the city, so the problem is city-wide, not only to specific area within the city.
Please get this sorted rather than ignore or give silly answers claiming it is our equipment. It is not. I know it, and you know it too. Time to call things as they are.
Best regards,
Marty
24-12-2022 11:09 PM
Actually automatic compensation is only on Openreach, no reason why they can't voluntarily award compensation.
25-12-2022 08:38 AM
@Jayach that's what I said only openreach.
Cityfibre will not sign up yet whilst there is still teething problems it would most likely bankrupt them if this forum is anything to go by
25-12-2022 11:33 AM
Sorry if I wasn't clear. The Ofcom regulated automatic compensation is for Openreach only. but Vodafone can still apply compensation for poor service on CityFibre, should they feel it is warranted.
Our contract is with Vodafone so they are responsible if the service is bad, irrespective of who they choose to supply it via.
26-12-2022 09:48 PM
https://www.vodafone.co.uk/broadband/auto-compensation-hbb
Your contract is with Vodafone and Vodafone is still responsible for your broadband, contract, billing and sorting issues out, The compensation for city fibre may not be auto as set out by the Ofcom auto compensation scheme. But Vodafone still needs to follow the guides of Ofcom which means you are still entitled to compensation and if Vodafone simply says no. Then go to CISAS Scheme because
5.3 If the adjudicator finds that the customer’s claim succeeds in full or in part, they can
direct the Vodafone to:
5.3.1 Provide the customer with an apology;
5.3.2 Provide the customer with a product or service;
5.3.3 Take some practical action;
5.3.4 Do something about one or more of the customer’s bills;
5.3.5 Make a payment to the customer, the total value of which shall not exceed
£10,000.00 (including VAT). The remedies directed by the adjudicator must
only affect and/or apply to the customer.
5.4 In exceptional circumstances, the adjudicator may award more than has been
claimed by the customer, or less than has been previously offered to the customer by
the company.
To get started with your claim use this link https://www.cedr.com/consumer/cisas/
15-02-2023 09:06 PM
And it is happening again in the evenings. Not just for myself, but for my other friends who are with Vodafone too.
When I connect to VPN - speeds are great, yet when I drop VPN connection - it is total rubbish again.
Vodafone, WHAT IS HAPPENING???
15-02-2023 09:16 PM
I can concur, atrocious speeds during evenings again. Yet, fine on VPN. Vodafone, what the hell are you doing to our internet connections?!
15-02-2023 09:40 PM - edited 14-03-2023 09:22 AM
See the thread I've posted below, there are users complaining about being connected to the Edinburgh gateway, despite not actually living anywhere near Edinburgh (or Scotland for that matter).
If there are multiple reports of slow speeds on this gateway, it's overloaded. It doesn't take much thinking to come to this conclusion.
If the social media team truly want to help us, instead of contacting support, why not collate everything together and actually make contact with the infrastructure team? That is the team that manages the network, they will know what the issues are.
The old excuse of being unable to reach a department doesn't wash. There are not gods, they are just regular people that work in a department. Just email them, if they don't respond, email their supervisor, etc.
15-02-2023 10:00 PM
Probably Edinburgh was best choice...
16-02-2023 12:32 AM
Please ignore @purrbox they just post a load of disinformation.
16-02-2023 04:02 PM
@Martynux and @VITALIJUS1986 - I understand this must be frustrating and we want you to have the best connection. Please go through our Support Tool when you're next facing the issue and it will go through live tests on your line.
If needed, you'll then be referred to an agent to go through further testing.