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Landline phone with own router on FTTP

bruce_miranda
4: Newbie

‎09-06-2022 08:32 AM

Just got FTTP and everything is working fine off the VF router. Phone lines are plugged into the VF router, VF router's WiFi is switched off. 3rd party Mesh has been switched to Bridge mode and plugged into the VF's ethernet port.

However I am shocked at how feature poor the VF router is. e.g. There are no Parental controls at all. I know I can get rid of the VF router and plug my own Mesh router into the Openreach ONT, but what about the Landline. 

Are there any 3rd party routers in the market that have a telephone socket at the back to allow the home phone to be plugged in? 

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mikester962014
3: Seeker
3: Seeker
In response to chesterweirdo

‎09-11-2023 01:38 PM

Hi there, I don't suppose you ever found the screenshots did you? I'm looking to switch over from BT to Vodafone. Already got a HT801 from previous use with Sipgate. Annoyingly Vodafone don't offer their own version of a WiFi VOIP adapter like BT do otherwise this would've been a perfect solution.

About a year ago now I used this thread to try and get it working on another Vodafone FTTP line but couldn't get it to work. Any help would be very much appreciated

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Jayach
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member
In response to MACH1

‎19-10-2023 03:05 AM

@MACH1 wrote:
Nobody told me that when we got FTTP our landline would only work if we used the crappy Vodafone router. I am thinking I may cancel the order and revert to the FTTC (while still available) if I am not able to use my own router daisy chained through the supplied unit.

I seriously doubt Openreach would allow you to revert to FTTC and the PSTN.

Do let us know how you get on, it's always interesting to see how people get the digital phone line working, whilst using their own router.

Tobywhiting10
2: Seeker
2: Seeker
In response to MACH1

‎19-10-2023 07:58 AM

If you would like to use your own router, I'd recommend picking up a huawei hg612 and getting rid of the Vodafone unit entirely. This is what I've done in order to use pfsense and as far as internet goes it works perfectly.

I tried to get the landline to work using freepbx but I never ended up getting it going. I am going to try again at some point but we don't use our land when very much anyway so it's not been a huge lots.

If I manage to get it working I'll update everyone here.

Jayach
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member
In response to Tobywhiting10

‎19-10-2023 01:42 PM

@Tobywhiting10 

@MACH1has just moved to FTTP, so no need of a modem, they can connect their own router direct to the ONT, they don't need the Vodafone router at all.

Except to get the Vodafone VoIP working.

The whole point of this thread.

But if you can get it working on anything other than Grandstream devices, do let us know.

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MACH1
4: Newbie
In response to Tobywhiting10

‎19-10-2023 08:30 PM

I have got a good Netgear router that I did have running on the FTTC broadband wit hVodafone, so I am hoping the basic connection settings may still work.  The landline I am hoping to solve with a Grandstream HT801.

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MACH1
4: Newbie

‎22-10-2023 05:51 PM

After another call to Vodafone, the Landline is once again working - but now on FTTP.  Somehow they had missed sonme setting on my landline account - so we could not get a dialling tone!    I have now ordered a Grandstream HT801, so hopefully will be able to switch back to my Netgear router before long, asit is driving me nuts that all the kit to which I HAD allocated static IP addresses have now been given new addresses.

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Cynric
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member
In response to MACH1

‎22-10-2023 08:26 PM

@MACH1  It may not help, but as a suggestion I have a Raspberry Pi with Pi-Hole running DNS and DHCP. I've swapped routers around several times and not had to worry about my devices.

WelshPaul
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

‎11-11-2023 02:07 PM

People should be extremely careful when using their own VoIP hardware with their Vodafone Digital Voice Landline. If anyone gains access to your VoIP credentials and uses them maliciously, you stand to foot an extremely high bill. When I say high, I mean hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands. Does Vodafone have a spending cap on landline calls?

If you choose to take the risk and use your own hardware then use a device that is currently being maintained by the manufacturer and isn't obsolete (end of line). DO NOT use obsolete, unbranded or cheap Chinese knockoffs such as the Linksys PAP2T currently being sold on the likes of eBay and Amazon. The real Linksys PAP2T went end of line way back in 2012 and support for it ended in 2013. Any 'new' Linksys PAP2T's listed for sale today are fake clones. Using obsolete, unbranded or cheap Chinese knockoffs increase the risk of someone gaining unauthorised access to the device and thus your Vodafone Digital Voice Username and Password.

The following analog telephone adapters are currently being maintained with the Grandstream HT801 being the cheapest and best suited for use with your Vodafone Digital Voice Landline.

  • Grandstream HT801
  • Grandstream HT802
  • Grandstream HT812
  • Grandstream HT813
  • Grandstream HT814
  • Grandstream HT818
  • Cisco ATA 191
  • Cisco ATA 192

It's also worth mentioning that an end user cannot change their VoIP password. Should your Vodafone Digital Voice credentials become known to unauthorised people you will not be able to stop them making chargeable calls until you can get a hold of a Vodafone customer service advisor. Remember, you're liable for those charges!

WelshPaul
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

‎11-11-2023 02:48 PM

Purchased a Grandstream telephone adapter?
If you have purchased a Grandstream telephone adapter (ATA), it will come configured for the US telecom system as standard. As such, it will play back US style tones, sounds and some UK phone features may not work correctly unless you make some configuration changes via the devices web based GUI.

What are the UK regional settings for the Grandstream telephone adapters and how do I implement them?
Login to your Grandstream telephone adapters web based GUI by typing the IP address of the device into your web browser. (There is no need to enter "http://" before the IP address.) If prompted enter the username and password to complete the process, you should now have access to the devices Web based GUI, from here you can configure your device with the correct regional configuration settings for use in the UK.

As an example, on the Grandstream HT812 configure with the following:

  • Navigate to the BASIC SETTINGS page:
      • Time Zone: GMT (London, Great Britain)
      • Self-Defined Time Zone: GMT0BST,M3.5.0/1,M10.5.0
    • Navigate to the ADVANCED SETTINGS page:
      • System Ring Cadence: c=400/200-400/2000;
      • Dial Tone: f1=350@-19,f2=440@-22,c=0/0;
      • Ringback Tone: f1=400@-20,f2=450@-20,c=400/200-400/2000;
      • Busy Tone: f1=400@-20,c=375/375;
      • Reorder Tone: f1=400@-20,c=400/350-225/525-0/0;
      • Confirmation Tone: f1=1400@-10,c=0/0;
      • Call Waiting Tone: f1=400@-20,c=100/2000;
      • Prompt Tone: f1=350@-19,f2=440@-22,c=0/0;
      • Conference Party Hangup Tone: f1=400@-20,c=0/0;
      • Special Proceed Indication Tone: f1=350@-19, f2=440@-22, c=750/750-0/0;
      • NTP Server: uk.pool.ntp.org
    • Navigate to the PROFILE 1/2 (FXS PORT on HT813) page(s):
      • MWI Tone: Special Proceed Indication Tone
      • Dial Plan: { 10[015] | 11[129] | 999 | 11[68]xxx | 1[45]7[1-2] | 08001111 | 0845464x | 0[1235789]xxxxxxxxx | 1410[1235789]xxxxxxxxx | 14700[1235789]xxxxxxxxx | 00xxx. | x+ | \+x+ | *x+ | *xx*x+ }
      • SLIC Setting: UK
      • Caller ID Scheme: SIN 227 - BT
      • Hook Flash Timing: Minimum: 60 Maximum: 200
      • Ring Frequency: 25
      • Ring Tone 1: c=400/200-400/2000;
      • Ring Tone 2: c=400/200-400/2000;
      • Ring Tone 3: c=400/200-400/2000;
      • Ring Tone 4: c=400/200-400/2000;
      • Ring Tone 5: c=400/200-400/2000;
      • Ring Tone 6: c=400/200-400/2000;
      • Ring Tone 7: c=400/200-400/2000;
      • Ring Tone 8: c=400/200-400/2000;
      • Ring Tone 9: c=400/200-400/2000;
      • Ring Tone 10: c=400/200-400/2000;
      • Call Waiting Tone 1: f1=400@-20,c=100/2000;
      • Call Waiting Tone 2: f1=400@-20,c=100/2000;
      • Call Waiting Tone 3: f1=400@-20,c=100/2000;
      • Call Waiting Tone 4: f1=400@-20,c=100/2000;
      • Call Waiting Tone 5: f1=400@-20,c=100/2000;
      • Call Waiting Tone 6: f1=400@-20,c=100/2000;
      • Call Waiting Tone 7: f1=400@-20,c=100/2000;
      • Call Waiting Tone 8: f1=400@-20,c=100/2000;
      • Call Waiting Tone 9: f1=400@-20,c=100/2000;
      • Call Waiting Tone 10: f1=400@-20,c=100/2000;
    Remember to click on the "Update" and "Apply" buttons located at the bottom of every page to save and activate the changes.

    Purchased a Grandstream HT813 telephone adapter?
    The HT813 is an analog telephone adapter that features 1 analog telephone FXS port and 1 PSTN line FXO port in order to offer backup lifeline support using a PSTN line. Additional UK regional settings are required for this model and I have included them below.

    Navigate to the FXO PORT page:
    • Caller ID Scheme: SIN 227 - BT
    • FSK Caller ID Seizure Bits: 96
    • FSK Caller ID Mark Bits: 55
    • PSTN Disconnect Tone: f1=400@-30,f2=400@-30,c=0/0;
    • Country-based: UK
    • Impedance-based: COMPLEX3 -- 370 ohms + (620 ohms || 310nF)

Ripshod
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member
In response to WelshPaul

‎11-11-2023 04:30 PM - edited ‎11-11-2023 04:30 PM

Great work @WelshPaul

Now, I wonder if we could get a mod or admin to even consider making your two posts into a sticky thread in this forum, freedom of information and all that?