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Flashing/steady power light, no other lights lit

Retired-George
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We’ve created this thread to help with an issue that some people find during setup.

 

This issue has the following symptoms:

 

  • The power light either constantly flashes or remains steady
  • No other lights flash or light up

 

Please note that whether the power light is flashing or remains steady, this still points to the same issue - the Sure Signal hasn't established a connection to the internet.

 

The only difference is that if the light’s steady, then the Sure Signal has previously downloaded a profile from the server, if it's flashing then it hasn't.

 

Troubleshooting steps:

 

Check the physical connection between your Sure Signal and the router/modem.

In order to work, the Sure Signal needs to be connected to a spare Ethernet port on your router or modem, or a Hub/Switch that is connected to an internet gateway.

 

In some cases, it’s possible for an Ethernet cable to be faulty, in which case it may not allow your router and Sure Signal to talk to each other.

 

To verify that the Ethernet cable works, check the lights at the back of your Sure Signal where the cable is plugged in.

 

There should be a link light on permanently which indicates that an electrical circuit has been established through the cable.

 

There should also be a light which flashes whenever data is being passed through the cable. If either the data light or the link light do not come on, this could indicate a problem with the cable itself. Please try a spare cable, or plug the cable into a different port on your router/modem.

 

Check that you’ve got an active internet connection.
Make sure you can connect to the internet on another device, such as your PC or phone. If you can’t connect, this indicates a problem with your router or your Internet Service Provider (ISP).

 

We recommend rebooting the router to see if this then allows you to connect to the internet.

 

Reboot your router/modem:

 

  1. Turn off your router or modem at the wall for 10 seconds and then turn it back on
  2. Wait for the lights on your modem/router to indicate that an internet connection has been established
  3. Press the reset button on the Sure Signal

 

Check that your Sure Signal has been assigned an internal IP address by your router.

The Sure Signal must be assigned an internal IP address by your router. If your router supports DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol), this must be enabled, as doing so will enable the router to assign an IP address to your Sure Signal automatically.


For more instructions on how to do this, please check your router manual, or contact your ISP or router manufacturer.

 

If your router or network configuration doesn’t allow DHCP, you’ll need to assign a static IP address to your Sure Signal's MAC Address by using your router's configuration panel. Please contact your ISP or router manufacturer for instructions on how to do this. The MAC address can be found on the sticker at the back of the Sure Signal.

 

BT Infinity customers.

If you’re a BT Infinity customer, you’ll need to log into your router admin page and select port clamping.

 

Once this has been selected please restart your router and Sure Signal.

 

Check your MTU settings.

Log into your router admin page and find the location of the MTU field. This varies depending on the make and model so you’ll need to look for it.

 

Change the value of the MTU size to 1500.

 

Log out of the router, this will usually result in a reboot.

 

Perform a reset of the Sure Signal:

 

  1. Hold in the reset button until all lights go solid
  2. Pull the power lead out with the reset button still pushed in
  3. Continue to hold down the reset button and reconnect the power lead
  4. Wait for all lights to come on and then release the reset button

 

The Sure Signal will now try to contact the network and download its profile. This can take up to 6 hours.

 

Post your router/ISP details and Sure Signal serial number.

If you’ve done all of the above, or you’re struggling with configuring your router, please post your router's make and model number below. Please also include your Sure Signal serial number and the name of your ISP.

 

We find that other users of the same router will usually be able to share tips with you, to get things working.

 

We’ll also attempt to help with this, but due to the number of different manufacturers and models, it is not always possible. We don’t officially support any form of router configuration, so we’ll always recommend contacting your router manufacturer or ISP for assistance first.

 

Thanks,

 

Jenny

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Hi simplicity, 

 

Your Sure Signal hasn't updated since December which could be causing an issue so I've performed a resync. 

 

To complete the process please perform a reset

 

Let us know how you get on. 

 

Kay

timbishop
4: Newbie

Some months ago I went through this process and in the end gave up. Fairly extensive network level debugging showed it was a packet fragmentation issue caused by the extra header added by PPPoE. PPPoE is used for fibre based DSL connections. It wasn't possible to get it working on my connection, and I confirmed the unit was functional on other connections with a different setup.

 

That's not to say it doesn't work at all on PPPoE. Some routers (for example, BT's Home Hub) behave differently and increase the packet size to cope with the extra PPPoE header, and in that case it works.

 

I'm not after any support because I don't think it can be solved at the level of this forum, but I wanted to mention it in case it's useful to others trying to debug the same issue.

 

There's some useful discussion on the technical details here.

Thanks for that. I have a BT hub but it still doesnt work for me...

beaglefone
2: Seeker
2: Seeker
Hi IP 31.50.228.155

I'm also having trouble with my V1 Sure Signal. As the title of the thread suggests, the power light comes on and is steady, but it is the only light that does (other than the when it cycles through all four lights on start-up).

 

So far, I've tried resetting the sure signal, resetting the router, opening the ports on the router, checking the link light (it's on), checking the data light (it's flashing), checking that the router is assigning it an IP (it is) and changing the ethernet cable and port.

 

Anything I missed?

 

Serial: 21229777509

ISP: Plus.Net

IP: 80.229.251.34

Trace Route results:

 

Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms * * dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 39 ms 45 ms 48 ms lo0-central10.ptn-ag02.plus.net [195.166.128.191]
3 39 ms 38 ms 41 ms link-b-central10.ptn-gw02.plus.net [212.159.2.134]
4 43 ms 91 ms 100 ms xe-1-2-0.ptw-cr02.plus.net [212.159.0.114]
5 38 ms 42 ms 46 ms ae2.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.4]
6 48 ms 43 ms 45 ms lndgw2.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.124]
7 42 ms 40 ms 40 ms 85.205.0.93
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

Retired-George
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

Yipee after 2 days I've managed to get our Sure Signal connect to the older style LIVEBOX.

Tried speaking with the tech guys at Orange our ISP, but they refused to assist in the configuration of the router, their advice was to use the pairing button, very poor considering.

I'm not technical in anyway, I know what to look at but thats my extent. I tried the details on the threads to configure the router firewall, but nothing worked, after a second call to Vodafone tech guys, although they can't configure the router as it's the responsibility of the ISP, but they could answer the questions I asked.

For those of you with little technical knowledge, a unhelpful ISP and a LIVEBOX, here's some helpful advise I hope, I used the Orange website help and support selected Livebox ASDL Status and followed the link to the livebox configuration, from here you can confirgure the router, under SECURITY select firewall, select advanced, then settings, then add rules. You need to set up rules for each port and protocol, under SERVICE select from the list a drop down will appear select HTTPS, (vodafone protocol is IP, livebox is TCP) so select TCP, TARGET is ACCEPT, enter the port number into the designation port box and IP address into the designation IP, then press submit repeat process until all rules are entered. This must be completed for IP address 212.183.133.177, Protocol TCP Port 50, IP 212.183.133.177 Protocol UDP Port 4500, IP 212.183.133.177 Protocol UDP Port 500, IP 212.183.133.181 Protocol TCP Port 8, IP 212.183.133.181 Protocol UDP Port 123, IP 212.183.133.182 Protocol TCP Port 8, IP 212.183.133.182 Protocol UDP Port 123, once this has been done select " Ping back on WALan" then select configure update, this takes care of the outgoing packets not the incoming from vodafone, to do this go to configuration then advanced then to router under port forwarding - NAT (NAT will only allow 1 rule for each protocol) select add, and add rules as with the firewall under service select HTTPS from the drop down, then I have entered IP 212.183.133.181 Protocol TCP Port 8 for both external and internal IP 212.183.133.182 Protocol UDP Port 123 for both external and internal pressing submit after every entry.

If you use the suggested IP 212.183.131.128/26 the livebox alarms invalid IP address, so don't use it.

If the sure signal has power on with light flashing press and hold the resest button count to 10 and remove the power supply whilst still holding the reset button in, count to 10 refit the power supply still holding the reset button in, count to 10 after the power light is lit and release the reset button. For the next hour I had the power light, @ light and phone light flashing slowly, then the power and @ light became constant, for the next 5 hours nothing more, on waking this morning we have lift off all is now operational.

We now have full 3G signal through out the house.

Vodafone Sureignal (old version) has worked fine for whole year

 

Recently wanted to change name via website - which seemed to work ok, although it did ask me to provide new postcode -- even though that hadn't changed (?) - did so anyway.

 

No immediate problem afterwards, but after recent power cycle i get the flashing power light only.

 

I have:

- checked router still assigns an IP to the VSS (it's a netgear DG834G)

- checked the relevant 4 ports are still opened in the firewall section (123, 50, 500, 4500 all TCP/UDP) - have seen some references to port 8 being required also - but have never previously had this set

- hard rebooted the router

- hard rebooted the VSS

- performed a full reset on the VSS

 

VSS serial number is 21229774374

 

When i look online, although i am assigned as the owner, i dont see myself on the list of users (but tbh i cannot remember if i ever could!)

 

Any help, gratefully received

 

 

20:06 18/11 - is typical - after watching it do nothing for about 2 days, minutes after posting this, it seems to be waking up - a variety of flashing lights at present, consistent with it getting itself sorted ... will monitor ...

21:50 18/11 - yup. all seems ok now. who knows!

Retired-George
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)
Hi shauny123,

Firstly, a very warm welcome to the eForum Family, it's always great to see new faces on here :).

I notice that you've mentioned PPPoE settings. The Sure Signal isn't currently compatible with PPPoE, it will work over PPPoA though. If you're connecting via PPPoE then it may be worth contacting your ISP to see if you're able to connect over PPPoA instead.

Give that a go and keep us updated with your progress :).

George
eForum Team

Hi, I have a Orange broadband(router Netgear DGn1000) which is not working with Sure signal. Only one power light is on which is steady. Please help.

 

Regards

 

Am