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Version 3 (Power - flashing, Internet - solid orange, In Service - off, In Use - solid orange)

Retired-Lee
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

This thread has been created to discuss and troubleshoot the version 3 Sure Signal when the light sequence is as follows:

 

  • Power: Flashing
  • Internet: Solid Orange
  • In Service: Off
  • In Use: Solid Orange

 

Cause

 

This light sequence indicates the Sure Signal's not active and the cause is a network timing issue (NTP). These symptoms can be prone to recurrence.

 

Troubleshooting


Check that your Sure Signal has been registered successfully.
Before your Sure Signal can connect to our network, you must have first registered it with us. You will have received a message via text or email to let you know when the registration has completed successfully. Your Sure Signal will not work until you have recieved this confirmation message.

To verify that your Sure Signal has been registered, login to My Account, and click on the My Sure Signal tab. Your Sure Signal details should be listed, along with the status "Registered".

If you have not registered your Sure Signal, and are a Business Customer, please register at our Business Sure Signal page.


If you're a Consumer Customer, you can register directly from within the My Sure Signal page in My Account.


Manually configure your Router to allow port-forwarding.
In most cases, routers support a system called "Universal Plug-n-Play" or UPnP, which will setup port-forwarding for you automatically. If you have a complicated network setup, or a complex router, you may be required to enter these settings in manually.

The following details list the IP addresses and Port Numbers that need to be forwarded to your Sure Signal's internal IP address. For detailed instructions on how to do this, we recommend either contacting your ISP or Router Manufacturer, or referring to the Default Guide for your particular make and model, over at http://portforward.com

Destination IP Addresses:

  • 212.183.133.177
  • 212.183.133.178
  • 212.183.133.179
  • 212.183.133.181
  • 212.183.133.182
  • 212.183.131.128/26


Ports and Protocols:

  • 8 – TCP/UDP                 (All routers)
  • 50 – TCP/UDP               (All routers)
  • 53 – TCP/UDP               (Virgin Super Hubs)
  • 67 – UDP                      (Virgin Super Hubs)                                                    
  • 68 – UDP                      (Virgin Super Hubs)                                        
  • 123 – UDP                    (All routers)     
  • 500 – UDP                    (All routers)     
  • 1723 – TCP/UDP           (BT Home Hubs)          
  • 4500 – UDP                   (All routers)     
  • 33434 – 33445 – UDP    (Virgin Super Hubs)


Please note that in the above list of IP addresses, the notation "212.183.131.128/26" means the complete range of IP addresses between 212.183.131.128 and 212.183.131.191

Your Router will also need to be able to assign the Sure Signal with a DNS Server address via DHCP.

 

Check your MTU settings:

 

  1. Log into your admin page for your router
  2. Find the location of the MTU field - this varies depending on the make and model of router so you’ll need to hunt around for it
  3. Change the value of the MTU size to 1500 if this is allowed by your router

 

Log out of the router, this will usually result in a reboot:

 

  1. Hold in the reset button until all the lights go solid
  2. Pull the power lead out with the reset button still pushed in
  3. Continue to hold down the reset button and reconnect the power lead
  4. Wait for all of the lights to come on then release the reset button

The Sure Signal will now try to contact the network and download its profile. This may take anything up to 6 hours.


Post your Router details.
If you have successfully followed all of the above, or are struggling with configuring your Router, please post your Router's make and full model number below. It would also be helpful to include your Sure Signal Serial number and ISP (Internet Service Provider).

 

Quite often other users of the same router will be able to share tips with you around setup and any extra security settings that may need to be enabled/disabled to get things working correctly. Wherever possible, we will also attempt to assist you with this, however due to the vast number of different manufacturers and models, it is not always possible, and we do not officially support any form of Router Configuration. For that reason we will always recommend contacting your Router Manufacturer or ISP for assistance first.

 

Please provide your ISP with some information supporting the network performance issue such as a number of speedtests performed throughout the day and a trace route.

 

Traceroute command:

On a PC:

 

  1. Click on Start and select Run
  2. Type CMD into the Run box and press enter/click ok
  3. A black box will appear.
  4. In this box type tracert 212.183.133.177 press Enter
  5. Paste the output of this command into your reply.

 

On a Mac:

 

  1. Open Terminal (Applications, Utilities)
  2. Type 'traceroute 212.183.133.177'
  3. Press Enter


Thanks

LeeH

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My  VSS (3)  has been registered (acknowledging text received on my phone )   and all the router (Apple Extreme ). port  forwarding settings complete .  Static IP address also complete

 

The VSS is still not operational !!! ..   Flashing red light and two outer lights orange ..  Central 'service' light not lit.

This seems ludicrous . Goodness knows how the average punter is supposed to deal with setting up  this VSS. 

 

 

can someone tell me where to go next with this please. ?

 

Speed test    download   6.74mbps    upload  0.37 mbps

ping test   45 ms

external IP     82.69.55.27

SURE SIGNAL; SERIAL NO     40134707112

 

 

Tracert  results below :--

 

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\CHRIS>tracert 212.183.133.177

Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  10.0.1.1
  2    27 ms    26 ms    27 ms  losubs.subs.dsl3.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.25]

  3    29 ms    38 ms    27 ms  ge-0-0-0-117.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.197]

  4    27 ms    28 ms    30 ms  xe-0-4-0-7.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [83.23
1.235.229]
  5    29 ms    27 ms    26 ms  xe-0.cw.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.8.13
0]
  6    27 ms    26 ms    31 ms  195.2.30.61
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12

 

 

    

NOT RESOLVED YET ! ( indication of resolution is incorrect )

 

The results of the information requested are below. .  The Suresignal is still not working ..   After 48hours, the red light simply flashes. The outer two other lights are fixed orange. The centre light is unlit ..

 

thanks

 

 speed test results     download 6.74 mbps       upload  0.37 mbps
 ping test results    45ms

external IP address . 82.69.55.27

The results of a traceroute.

Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]                  over a maximum of 30 hops:                                                                                                                                      

 1     4 ms     1 ms     1 ms  10.0.1.1                                         

2    26 ms    27 ms    27 ms  losubs.subs.dsl3.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.25]                                                                                  

3    26 ms    26 ms    28 ms  ge-0-0-0-117.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.197]                                                                                 

4    27 ms    29 ms    27 ms  xe-0-4-0-7.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [83.231.235.229]                                                                      

  5    50 ms    28 ms    27 ms  xe-0.cw.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.8.130]                                                                               

6    27 ms    27 ms    27 ms  195.2.30.61                                      

 7     *        *        *     Request timed out.                              

8     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               

9     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               

10     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               11     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               12     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               13     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               14     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               15     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               16     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               17     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               18     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               19     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               20     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               21     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               22     *        *        *     Request timed out.                               23     *     ^C                                                               

 

  Sure Signal serial number: 40134707112

 

CAFOULK

 

Retired-Andy
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

Hi CAFOULK,

 

The light sequence you’re seeing shows that your Sure Signal hasn’t been able to authenticate on our servers during the set up process.

 

Your IP address is on our whitelist, so no problems there either.

 

Your traceroute doesn’t appear to reach our servers so this may be a cause of your issue.

 

Can you re-run the test and post the results?

 

Your ping test is fine, but your upload speed is close to the minimum needed for the unit to work.

 

Do you have any other devices that also use your connection?

 

If you do, can you disconnect them and see if the Sure Signal then connects?

 

If it does, you’d need to speak with your Internet Service Provider (ISP) about increasing your connection speed.

 

Also, check to make sure that the following ports are open/forwarded on your router:-

 

Port Number

 

8          TCP      UDP

50         TCP      UDP

53         TCP      UDP

67                     UDP

68                     UDP

123                   UDP

500                   UDP

1723     TCP      UDP

4500                 UDP

33434 - 33445    UDP

 

Let me know how you get on.

 

Cheers,

 

Andy

Further update of test as requested :------

 

 

C:\Users\CHRIS>tracert 212.183.133.177

Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     2 ms     1 ms  10.0.1.1
  2    27 ms   228 ms   202 ms  losubs.subs.dsl3.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.25]

  3   126 ms   105 ms   199 ms  ge-0-0-0-117.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.197]

  4   212 ms    26 ms   176 ms  xe-0-4-0-7.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [83.23
1.235.229]
  5    87 ms   203 ms   101 ms  xe-0.cw.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.8.13
0]
  6   123 ms   203 ms   101 ms  195.2.30.61
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *

 

All the port forwarding is set up as suggested.

I have two solid white lights (LEFT AND CENRAL ).. Right hand light stays out .

Red light is on and constant.

 

CMD READINGS   as follows:-

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\CHRIS>tracert 212.183.133.177

Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  10.0.1.1
  2    27 ms    27 ms    26 ms  losubs.subs.dsl1.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.17]

  3    26 ms    30 ms    27 ms  ge-0-0-0-113.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.181]

  4    27 ms    27 ms    26 ms  xe-0-4-0-7.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [83.23
1.235.229]
  5    29 ms    28 ms    26 ms  xe-0.cw.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.8.13
0]
  6    27 ms    29 ms    27 ms  195.2.30.61
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9     *

 

 

I got a 3G signal for about 10 minutes and then hasn't worked for last 5 days .. Not a glimmer !!

 

I have disconnected everything else .. (Phones, Laptops , etc.. )   Has no effect at all

 

What else would you suggest ?

 

Extremely frustrating ...!! 

 

 

 

 

All the port forwarding is set up as suggested. Namely:---

 

Port Number

 8          TCP      UDP

50         TCP      UDP

53         TCP      UDP

67                     UDP

68                     UDP

123                   UDP

500                   UDP

1723     TCP      UDP

4500                 UDP

33434 - 33445    UDP

 

I have two solid white lights (LEFT AND CENTRAL ).. Right hand light stays out .

Red light is on and constant.

 

CMD READINGS   as follows:-

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\CHRIS>tracert 212.183.133.177

Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  10.0.1.1
  2    27 ms    27 ms    26 ms  losubs.subs.dsl1.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.17]

  3    26 ms    30 ms    27 ms  ge-0-0-0-113.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.181]

  4    27 ms    27 ms    26 ms  xe-0-4-0-7.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [83.23
1.235.229]
  5    29 ms    28 ms    26 ms  xe-0.cw.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.8.13
0]
  6    27 ms    29 ms    27 ms  195.2.30.61
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9     *

 

 

I got a 3G signal for about 10 minutes and then hasn't worked for last 5 days .. Not a glimmer !!

 

I have disconnected everything else .. (Phones, Laptops , etc.. )   Has no effect at all

 

What else would you suggest ?

 

Extremely frustrating ...!! 

DaveCD
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

Hi CAFOULK

 

I can see that although the Sure Signal has updated to the latest software, there was some errors, so I have arranged for this to be resent.

 

Please allow 24 hours without turning the power off or resetting the device.

 

Once this has been done, please reset your phone, the best way would be to power off, remove SIM and battery (if possible), then replace battery and power up without SIM.

Once this has been done, input SIM and start up as normal.

 

If this hasn't connected at this point, please reset the Sure Signal, you will need to hold the reset button for a minimum of 20 seconds, and then reset your phone as above.

 

I have noticed that the IP address looks as though it could be a business one, where there may be firewalls etc.

If you're still having issues, please can you try this on another connection (at home, friend or family members).

 

Let me know how you get on.

 

DaveCD

Dave

 

Thanks for the advice.

I have re booted my phone as described.

Unfortunately, the VSS has now changed so that the two outer lights are a steady orange, but the centre light is now off .

The red is now flashing.

Can you re- examine..  The VSS was left for 24 hours as suggested.

There are no Firewalls .. This is a business phone account but the VSS is in a home address ..

 

latest CMD

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\CHRIS>tracert 212.183.133.177

Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     3 ms  10.0.1.1
  2    28 ms    26 ms    27 ms  losubs.subs.dsl1.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.17]

  3    29 ms    27 ms    29 ms  ge-0-0-0-113.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.181]

  4    26 ms    27 ms    27 ms  xe-0-4-0-7.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [83.23
1.235.229]
  5    27 ms    27 ms    27 ms  xe-0.cw.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.8.13
0]
  6    39 ms    27 ms    27 ms  195.2.30.61
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10     *

 

 

 

 

thanks

 

Chris F

Retired-Andy
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

Hi Chris,

 

The lights that you’re seeing show that the Sure Signal hasn’t been able to authenticate itself on our servers.

 

Strangely though, it connected to our servers last night at 21:47.

 

I’d suggest checking with your ISP (Internet Service Provider) to see if they’ve been performing any maintenance recently that may be affecting your connection.

 

As the right ports are open/forwarded, can you confirm that the router’s MTU (Maximum Transmission Unit) is set to 1500?

 

If this doesn’t help, the next option would be to try the device in a different location such as a family member or friend, preferably with a different ISP.

 

Let me know how you get on.

 

Cheers,

 

Andy

Ben_H
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

Hi CAFOULK,

 

Thanks for supplying your details. :Smiling:

Your IP, traceroute and speedtests all came out great. Looking at your Sure Signal, I can see it's struggled to synchronise with our servers. I'm pushing a manual sync through now. Reset your device, then give it an hour and it should come back online.

 

If it doesn't, can you let me know if your router has assigned a fixed IP for your Sure Signal and who your ISP is?

Cheers, Ben