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For how long has 76Mbps been the fastest? When can we expect speed increases?

CaptainCompete
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As the title says.

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Nabs
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When FTTP or G.fast become available
Edit: 80Mbps (which Vodafone advertise as 76Mbps) has been the theoretical fastest since FTTC(VDSL2) started rolling out


@Nabswrote:

When FTTP or G.fast become available
Edit: 80Mbps (which Vodafone advertise as 76Mbps) has been the theoretical fastest since FTTC(VDSL2) started rolling out


So.. When does FTTP or G.fast become available?

 

And when did FTTC(VDSL2) started rolling out? :Smiling:

Nabs
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FTTP is very slowly rolling out, BT Openreach are aiming for 3milllion properties by 2020. Additionally Vodafone appear to be aiming for 5million by 2025 through a 10 year partnership with CityFibre

Regarding G.fast, there have been trials going in some areas for some time but there isn't, as far as i'm aware, any confirmed information for a full commercial rollout. The big downside to g.fast is that in order to achieve the speed boost your copper link to the cabinet needs to be relatively short, <100m the theoretical speeds are between 500 and 1000Mbps dropping down to 100mbps by the time you are 500m out, further away than that and you're apparently better with FTTC.

BT started rolling out FTTC back in 2010 🙂

All of this is interesting enough, but to an extent I find these promised speeds rather theoretical in that much depends on who you are connecting to, so if you have a badly coded website on an oversubscribed web server it becomes very difficult to take advantage of these speed gains. As always it depends on the weakest link in a chain. 

Worked in networks (phones & computing) for 50+ years now and the perception has never changed - 'Can't possibly my kit and the other end says it's up so it must be the network' - Considering we used to run windows with networking on 1MB of RAM and now it's recommended to have 2GB minimum perhaps it's time the developers started to look at making their programmes more efficient and perhaps a tool which provides a 'meter' to breakdown the different timings, we have ping so occasional auto test pings would give network delay, throughput can be measured, so what about server & local equipment processing times ? A major problem is that the carriers are concerned with ' commercial sensitivity' so they won't tell anyone how busy their networks are or the capacity or even the delays on the WWW Core network. There's no simple answers I'm afraid.

I do a certain amount of web design in my day to day work and strive to avoid call outs to external services that often slow down page loading massively, thus making it no faster to view a site on 76mbps than 10mbps. All those calls to Twitter, Facebook and YouTube etc as the page opens can make your website annoyingly slow.

On one site I ended up removing Vimeo, because the call for their precious analytics on the other side of the world was adding 2 seconds to the page opening, which is untenable for an e-commerce site.

A lot of designers haven't yet grasped the concept of focussing their designs more tightly for mobile than desktop and average page weight is considerably higher than a few years ago. A lot of those bells and whistles, such as cool animations place a lot of strain on low end mobile devices.

All of this is beyond your control, unless it's your own site, but I hope this explains to a degree why web pages won't automatically be opening that much faster if you start paying a premium for a 300mbps connection. A large percentage of websites are also hosted on dirt cheap shared hosting packages that are crammed to bursting point, so the resources are really limited and this is particularly bad if you use something like Wordpress. 


@Nabswrote:

FTTP is very slowly rolling out, BT Openreach are aiming for 3milllion properties by 2020. Additionally Vodafone appear to be aiming for 5million by 2025 through a 10 year partnership with CityFibre

Regarding G.fast, there have been trials going in some areas for some time but there isn't, as far as i'm aware, any confirmed information for a full commercial rollout. The big downside to g.fast is that in order to achieve the speed boost your copper link to the cabinet needs to be relatively short, <100m the theoretical speeds are between 500 and 1000Mbps dropping down to 100mbps by the time you are 500m out, further away than that and you're apparently better with FTTC.

BT started rolling out FTTC back in 2010 🙂


Thanks for the info mate.

Do you know which areas of London will be live first? Is there a way to find out?

Just as a point of reference I had 100mbps when  lived in Milan 18 years ago... 


@Sgt_Bilkowrote:

Just as a point of reference I had 100mbps when  lived in Milan 18 years ago... 


Yeah exactly, that is my point as well. I don't get it how a city like London is so far behind with broadband development.