Fttp not available from vodafone

[Dannyhague3]

Im currently a vodafone fttc customer which is very slow. A few months ago i had a email from openreach saying fttp is now available on my street but i can only seem to get it through BT. I would prefer to get it with vodafone, but when i called they said its not available for my property even tho bt and openreach websites say it is. Tbh vodafone don’t seem very clued up on fttp when you speak on the phone and online chat about it. So the question is can vodafone provide my property with fttp through the openreach network?

[Anonymous]

You get VDSL2 FTTC over a BT line using whats called LLU (local loop unbundling) agreements which are (almost) nationwide).  The same agreements are not in place for FTTP.  There are agreements in place for FTTP provision, but they are not so comprehensive.  It's, unfortunately, something we just have to live with!

[Maligally]

With Vodafone playing the market and aiming to be the best / biggest FTTP provider outside of openreach, its clear there is a bigger political picture here which is why many threads on the same subject exist within this community. channel. 

As a consumer the statement "unfortunately, something we just have to live with!" does not ring true because Vodafone customers are leavingm so actually there is something that can be done. 

[CrimsonLiar]

Vodafone is a private company and a part of that means creating profit for their shareholders.  Their expansion into providing FTTP services though is being actioned through partnerships, and they are competition with other companies.  This creates competition in the market, but in order to create a fair market still requires some governance (OFCOM).  It's far from a perfect system, but still probably better than having provision from a state or forced commercial monopoly.  I would imagine though, that once the network is more comprehensive, we'll see a number of mergers - such as happened with the Cable TV companies (most of which became NTL and then Virgin Media).

Sure there are several things we can do! 

We can - subject to contracts - leave!

We can petition OFCOM and/or the government to change the rules.

Or (in bad taste) we could overthrow the government, have everything nationalised, get rid of competition completely.

There are other options, though of the three I've listed I prefer options 1 & 2.