cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
1

Ask

2

Reply

3

Solution

FTTP/Cityfibre. Traffic shaping suspected. Poor download speeds during evenings. MUCH better on VPN

Martynux
3: Seeker
3: Seeker

Dear Vodafone,

 

It is time you admit that you are applying traffic shaping on your internet connection during the evenings.

I have always wondered why some traffic goes through better than other in the evenings.

I have done extensive testing in the past few days and I have come across to the below findings:

Internet connection speeds drop down to miserable 2-3 megabits download during the evenings / peak time. Upload though goes well and I'd say it is intact.

So I have done some testing. I have connected to different VPN providers to the servers nearby in the UK as well as abroad as far as Iceland and Lithuania.

And guess what - Over the VPN I get 200+ mbps results, immediately as I drop out from VPN and do the test on a clean line I again get those miserable few megabits.

Now if you are technical enough you must understand the irony here.

Going through VPN channel always should give you lower speeds as extra hops and conditions involved in the traffic/equipment. However when on VPN, speed test results are always better. Always, not sometimes, but always. And considerably much better than having connection without being wrapped up in VPN.

This indicates only one thing - QOS/Traffic shaping is in place with Vodafone during peak times.

Tell me, Vodafone, please, why when I am paying for 900mbps I am getting the service of a few megabits during peak times? And please, keep that rubbish to yourself when you start stating - oh it is probably your router, your Wi-Fi and so on. No it is not! I know it is not. I am getting exactly the same results on wired connection using Vodafone or any other router. To be precise your router is a piece of junk that is good for grandmas who watch BBC iPlayer and send three WhatsApp messages a day. I am and advanced user, a technician in fact, with 20+ years of IT support under my belt. 

It is not my router to blame, not my corporate grade wireless access point, not even cheap Vodafone router to blame, it is the policies that Vodafone has set on the back end to shape the traffic during busiest periods.

And it is not fair. I am paying for 900mbps service, yet during evenings I get 300 times slower speeds than I am paying for. Even daytime I rarely reach anything more than 500mbps, it doesn't really bother me that much as I consider speeds above 100mbps acceptable and I simply have no patience to call your India-based call centres and speak to so called "experts" who read from the script, have little to no actual knowledge, and won't deviate from script that they read from the knowledge-base and give a pre-defined answers from templates.

 

Explain this please, how is this fair, and how is this a good value for money that I am paying? I am actually considering leaving Vodafone, at least when I had broadband over copper line I was getting consistent speeds 24/7. Heck, even with 3 mobile 4G connection I had better speeds than with you guys! 

I see no reason why I should be utilising VPN in order to increase my internet browsing experience. It is an extra expense as well as extra burden that I have to go through in order to reach acceptable connection speeds.

 

Three days ago, in the evening I was trying to download 5 gigabyte Windows 10 ISO file from Microsoft, I was getting estimated time of download of 7 hours over 900mbps FTTP line. Makes sense? - Thought so, it does not make sense to me either.

 

Feel free to reach out to me for troubleshooting if you are brave enough to deal with me, I promise you, I won't go easy on you, but I promise to be reasonable and respectful. However I won't take your nonsense and won't accept that it is something to do with my equipment, because I know it is not the equipment.. It is not, and I know, period!

I have done plenty of testing internally, I have tested my independent wireless AP throughput over local network and I have amazing results as long as Vodafone is not in the picture. Anything routed through Vodafone internet link is rubbish unless I wrap that device that is reaching out to the internet to VPN. 

I really don't enjoy having to jump through the hoops just to have something that should be provided to me already because it is a contractual obligation. I expect the service to be delivered as per contract, not some lame excuses from cheap labour agent somewhere in India who has no idea what he is talking about.

 

So to sum this up:

 

From 18:00 onwards to around 22-24h connection speeds drop dramatically to miserable few megabits, sometimes if lucky 30-40mbps, never goes above 100. 

No difference if Vodafone or other independent router / access point used, connection still rubbish.

When on VPN, then connection is much better - going to 200-300mbps speeds.

Outside those hours connection speeds are much better, good enough not to complain about. 

I work from home supporting different timezones and working during evenings is a challenge due to this issue. I certainly have an impact on my work performance due to this.

 

My equipment/plan:

 

Cityfibre FTTP 900mbps.

Draytek Vigor 2925 router

Ubiquiti Unifi UAP-nanoHD.

Location: Aberdeen

 

To add a cherry on top of this cake: it is not only me that is having this issue here in Aberdeen. There are 3 more of us (and I can provide their details on request) who are subscribed to Cityfibre/Vodafone FTTP service and we all are having exactly the same issue during evenings. We all live in different areas of the city, so the problem is city-wide, not only to specific area within the city. 

Please get this sorted rather than ignore or give silly answers claiming it is our equipment. It is not. I know it, and you know it too. Time to call things as they are. 

 

Best regards,

 

Marty

145 REPLIES 145

Ripshod
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

I can't see them "fighting" each other, but if their frequencies overlap there will be some loss of speed - to share channels efficiently they'll each negotiate time to use those frequencies.

You'll have an AP setup if you set access point mode in the asus settings. From what you've already described you actually have the two routers piggy-backed (double NAT) which can cause problems with online gaming or streaming.

It's for you to move the asus around and test antenna positions to find what works best for you.

 

Okydoke I'll have a play about. I also checked the Asus and it's in router mode - Is it easy enough for me to put it into AP mode? 

Ripshod
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

Yes, it's easy. There's a radio button in the gui (if you take a look now it's on the page that opens when you select "Administration") . When selected the asus should reboot into AP mode. 

so just press SAVE then?so just press SAVE then?

P1x3l8
4: Newbie

rooms.JPG

Hans53
2: Seeker
2: Seeker

I am also having same problem , I used be broadband technical support 3rd line. When using a vpn I get full speeds etc , and soon evening from around 4 until 8 in morning it will drop as slow to from 900mbits to anything to 6mbits or 300mbits which is under what they they promise. A ticket is still open for them sort this as looks like to me yes they are slowing down broadband lines etc there is no other possible reason as it wouldn't be 900mbits all day u til around 4 then suddenly line slow downs they are using automatic line shaping to slow down broadband . I will be complaining to ofcom after a serious letter to Vodafone as I was t answers and I will be going for compensation and will get ofcom to agree to come out my contract early . When I was on city Viber pro 900mbits in 2022 I had zero slow downs, soon as time renew in February 2024 at good price , and dropped to standard 900mbits I've had nothing but problems , no broadband or slow speeds , now slowing my broadband at peak times etc they have to be breaking contract and ofcom rules as my broadband is under what they say should be. I will never use Vodafone again and will be looking at canceling my contract through complaint through ofcom. What they need understand I was 3rd line tech support broadband and I know what is going on , there palm off rubbish will not cut it with someone so technical in know how . It's disgusting what they doing.