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Asus Rapture GT-AC5300 and Vodafone THG3000

Mike2022
2: Seeker

I have just moved across to Vodafone Ultrafast 500 Fibre and have an existing ASUS Rapture GT-AC5300.

 

From reading various posts it is not possible to set the Vodafone THG3000 hub to router only. I have requested the email address and password for the hub.

 

Some help with setting up the router would be much appreciated. I've read somewhere that I connect the LAN cable direct from the ONT direct to the router bypassing the Vodafone hub?

 

I've also been told I will not be able to use my home phone number that I transferred across from Virgin Media. Is there a work around?

 

Thanks in advance

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jstott1070
3: Seeker

Also interested in this as i am planning on moving to VodaFone but would very much like to use my existing Asus setup. Dont really want to be running another hub given the amount of connected devices i already have setup on my network. 

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Jayach
16: Advanced member

@jstott1070

Are you also going on to FTTP?

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jstott1070
3: Seeker

Yes, that’s the plan although reading through some of the other posts it doesn’t seem that straightforward to reuse my existing setup and I suspect I may end up using the VF router for its modem function and use the ASUs routers to serve the Wi-Fi access. 

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Jayach
16: Advanced member

@jstott1070 wrote:

Yes, that’s the plan although reading through some of the other posts it doesn’t seem that straightforward to reuse my existing setup and I suspect I may end up using the VF router for its modem function and use the ASUs routers to serve the Wi-Fi access. 


The THG3000 doesn't have a modem only mode, so it will be doing everything else. and the Asus will be a glorified Access Point.

Hopefully in the future they may release details of how to use the VoIP service on alternative hardware and then you can retire  the THG3000.

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THG3000-IPv6
4: Newbie

As mention before THG3000 does not support Modem/Bridge Mode only ;(
and in that case you will loose landline/home phone service if you want to use the ASUS Rapture GT-AC5300.

But just looked and you can port your landline/home phone: It's called "renumber and export"
https://www.aa.net.uk/voice-and-mobile/number-porting/port-your-landline-voip/
so you need to find a provider that will port your number for you :Smiling:

See my posts in the landline section
https://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Landline/How-to-get-my-landline-working-again-post-FTTP-installation...

Maybe Sipgate.co.uk will do it :Smiling: Interesting post here:
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/talk/threads/sogea-landline-number-to-voip-migration.36536/
But since you are on FTTP, you can not loose any service :Winking_smiley:

I believe that you could go even further and get rid of the ONT and plug the fiber to decent quality Router (with some MAC address cloning :Winking_smiley:


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CrimsonLiar
13: Advanced Member

Nope, you cannot remove the ONT/(G)PON device and plug the fibre optic cable directly into a router!  The ONT/(G)PON filters, decodes and converts the optical signal so that you can connect to the router using an ethernet cable.

 

https://www.bt.com/help/broadband/whats-an-openreach-modem-ont

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THG3000-IPv6
4: Newbie

@CrimsonLiar

Are you sure?

 

 

According to this post it can be done on CitiFIber ONT equipment and plugged into a SFP module/Router directly.
https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/vodafone/4702608-cityfibre-ont.html?fpart=all&vc=1

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Mike2022
2: Seeker

This is what I did to get the Asus Rapture GT-AC5300 to connect:

  • Firstly obtain your Vodafone THG3000 Router Username and Password from Vodafone (08080 034515). Expect a 45 minute wait and after some resistance being passed to the people who can remotely connect to your router to establish the username and password. The Vodafone THG3000 Router must be connected to the ONT via the WLAN cable for them to remote access. To avoid potential errors get them to text the username and password to you. The username will be in the form of dsl********@broadband.vodafone.co.uk
  • Connect the WLAN cable from the ONT into the WAN (internet port) on the Asus Rapture GT-AC5300.
  • Using PC / Laptop etc connect to the Asus Rapture GT-AC5300 router using whatever you router Username and password is.
  • On the left hand pane within the advance sttings select "WAN". (pic 1)
  • On the right hand pane select the drop down to the right of "WAN Connection Type" (under Basic Config) and change the setting to "PPPoE" (pic 1)
  • Two thirds down on the right hand pane under Account Settings input the Username and Password as supplied by Vodafone. (pic1)
  • Scroll to the bottom of the right hand pane and click "Apply".
  • Then on the LEFT hand pane select "LAN" (pic 2)
  • When the screen updates on the right hand pane at the top select the tab "IPTV" (pic 2)
  • Under "Select ISP Profile" select the drop down arrow and scroll to the bottom of the choices to select "Manual Setting" (pic 2)
  • On the "Internet" (which appears below "Select ISP Profile") enter "911" in the "VID" box (pic 2)
  • Click "Apply" (pic 2)
  • The Router will take a couple of minutes to save and reconnect.
  • If you click the "Dashboard" tab on teh LEFT hand pane you'll see if the router is now connected to the internet.
  • NOTE: Reading various posts the code for "VID" Under "LPTV" seems to vary. "911" works for me. Other posts have suggested "101". This didn't work for me.
  • Hope this helps those less tech minded

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CrimsonLiar
13: Advanced Member

Regards using an SFP module and spoofing the ONT settings, yes I am aware that is possible.  Not mentioning that possibility was an active decision.

Can it physically be done: Yes, but may vary depending on the ONT/PON/GPON in use

Having done it, if you were caught by your ISP would there be repercussions:  Possibly

I tend to be of the mind that it is not wise to promote, or engage in such actions, especially when the resulting action offers no positive benefits.

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THG3000-IPv6
4: Newbie

Great to see you got it working :Smiling:

What speeds are you getting Down/Up?

Does (CityFiber) offer IPv6?
Did it work when you used the THG3000?
What are you going to do about the landline/home phone?

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THG3000-IPv6
4: Newbie

@CrimsonLiar

I will def. do it, when/if I get FTTP :Smiling:


Removing the ONT you do not gain anything ... well, just "1" less device and my other half would definitely agree with me, less cables looks tidy :Winking_smiley:

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Mike2022
2: Seeker

Download speed: 493:51

Upload speed: 493:58

I pay for the 500 package. 
On the phone line side. I can connect the Asus router to the THG3000 via a LAN cable out of the one of the 8 ports on the Asus Router into the “WAN” port of the THG3000. 

I’ve tried connecting a cable from the Tel 1 port on the THG30000 directly into the phone. Whilst I can get a dialling tone, there’s an intermittent signal which I guess is the broadband interfering. Perhaps I need a filter? 

 

 

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Jayach
16: Advanced member

@Mike2022 wrote:

On the phone line side. I can connect the Asus router to the THG3000 via a LAN cable out of the one of the 8 ports on the Asus Router into the “WAN” port of the THG3000. 

I’ve tried connecting a cable from the Tel 1 port on the THG30000 directly into the phone. Whilst I can get a dialling tone, there’s an intermittent signal which I guess is the broadband interfering. Perhaps I need a filter? 



Thanks for that info, I've been wondering if it would work. If you do get it working successfully do let us know.😀

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THG3000-IPv6
4: Newbie

@Mike2022

It would not be a signal, it's digital.
I take it VF is using IMS (IP Multimedia System) technology same as BT,

which is used in VoFi-Wi/VoLTE on smart phones.

So I guess could be NAT problem?

Can you turn on firewall (make sure it's on) on the THG3000 and on the Asus assign static IP to the THG3000
and set the THG3000/IP address in DMZ zone (so basically the THG3000 will not be blocked by the Asus firewall/NAT)?

Then reboot the THG3000 so it can re-connect :Smiling:
And you may be able to see some interesting data in the log on the Asus :Winking_smiley:

Wow so interesting to see symmetric 500 Mbps on CityFibre network .... I thought that FTTP GPON is always asymmetric speed .......

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Jayach
16: Advanced member

@THG3000-IPv6

Cityfibre speeds are always the same up and down, Openreach are always slower up than down.

Good idea of putting the THG3000 in the Asus's DMZ, that may well work. Lets hope @Mike2022  lets us know if he tries it.

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