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25-05-2014 09:12 AM
VSS1 has been working just fine for many years but switched to BT Infinity on Friday and has not worked since. I have had VF resynch the VSS, resetting it several times, set up port forwarding (even though this wasnt needed previously)
VSS Serial: 1224332243
It seems to me that the MTU is the issue here. From what I can see VSS1 (maybe all VSS) doesnt allow fragmented packets. The business hub has a max MTU setting of 1492, VSS seems to only allow an MTU of 1500 bytes and ignores fragmented packets. I know traffic is being fragmented because the hub is tel;ling me it is:
IN: BLOCK [5] Fragmented packet (IP 212.183.133.179->81.136.222.41 fragment_offset=1480)
stuarts-mbp:~ stuarthatto$ nslookup 212.183.133.179
Server:192.168.0.1
Address:192.168.0.1#53
Non-authoritative answer:
179.133.183.212.in-addr.arpaname = cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk.
My Business hub firewall is turned OFF.
It seems that the router is rejecting the packet because the DF bit is set (do not fragment) which of course the router has to do because its max MTU is set to 1492, not 1500.
So, how do I proceed here? There is no option on the BT Business Hub to ignore DF bit and VSS doesnt do MTU path discovery and allow a lower MTU.
Any help would be VERY welcome ...
Stuart
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11-07-2014 05:38 PM
Vodafone, I owe you a HUGE apology. I could not grovel enough...:smileyembarrassed:
I replaced the BT Business Hub 3 today with a Billion Bipac 8800NL - didn't have to set up any port forwarding at all and the VSS1 connected for the first time in 2 months.
I also didn't change anything MTU-wise - but the thing with the 8800NL is that it replaces both the business hub AND the openreach modem. Presumably because it is doing both jobs it is capable of reassembling the fragments correctly.
For £70 it was a sound investment and clearly better than the pile of junk BT palm off on its customers.
Sorry again,
Stuart
25-05-2014 10:20 AM
Actually I have no evidence the DF bit is set, but it does appear that the router is seeing fragmented packets and rejecting them.
Stuart
26-05-2014 03:23 PM
26-05-2014 05:10 PM
Thank you Jenny:
VSS Serial: 21224332243
The BT Business Hub does not have a setting to allow fragments, it has a fixed MTU of 1492 and it can be changed lower but not higher.
Stu
27-05-2014 02:25 PM
Hi stuarthatto,
I've checked your Sure Signal and it doesn't appear to be running on the most up to date firmware.
I've asked for the firmware to be sent to the Sure Signal, this process will be completed within 24 hours.
In the mean time, please leave the Sure Signal plugged in and do not reset it at any point.
Thanks,
Matt B
27-05-2014 03:21 PM
Thanks Matt, will do.
Stu
28-05-2014 01:03 PM
Its been 24 hours, still no joy
28-05-2014 03:24 PM
Hi stuarthatto
We're aware of some users with BT Infinity are experiencing issues, see here for more information.
Please advise what lights you're seeing as this will often indicate the fault.
DaveCD
28-05-2014 03:50 PM
The only light on is the top power light which is on steady.
Thanks,
Stuart
29-05-2014 01:54 PM