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11-01-2013 12:29 PM - last edited on 14-07-2014 05:32 PM by Jenny
This thread has been created to discuss and troubleshoot the version 3 Sure Signal when the light sequence is as follows:
Cause
This light sequence indicates the Sure Signal's not active and the cause is a network timing issue (NTP). These symptoms can be prone to recurrence.
Troubleshooting
Check that your Sure Signal has been registered successfully.
Before your Sure Signal can connect to our network, you must have first registered it with us. You will have received a message via text or email to let you know when the registration has completed successfully. Your Sure Signal will not work until you have recieved this confirmation message.
To verify that your Sure Signal has been registered, login to My Account, and click on the My Sure Signal tab. Your Sure Signal details should be listed, along with the status "Registered".
If you have not registered your Sure Signal, and are a Business Customer, please register at our Business Sure Signal page.
If you're a Consumer Customer, you can register directly from within the My Sure Signal page in My Account.
Manually configure your Router to allow port-forwarding.
In most cases, routers support a system called "Universal Plug-n-Play" or UPnP, which will setup port-forwarding for you automatically. If you have a complicated network setup, or a complex router, you may be required to enter these settings in manually.
The following details list the IP addresses and Port Numbers that need to be forwarded to your Sure Signal's internal IP address. For detailed instructions on how to do this, we recommend either contacting your ISP or Router Manufacturer, or referring to the Default Guide for your particular make and model, over at http://portforward.com
Destination IP Addresses:
Ports and Protocols:
Please note that in the above list of IP addresses, the notation "212.183.131.128/26" means the complete range of IP addresses between 212.183.131.128 and 212.183.131.191
Your Router will also need to be able to assign the Sure Signal with a DNS Server address via DHCP.
Check your MTU settings:
Log out of the router, this will usually result in a reboot:
The Sure Signal will now try to contact the network and download its profile. This may take anything up to 6 hours.
Post your Router details.
If you have successfully followed all of the above, or are struggling with configuring your Router, please post your Router's make and full model number below. It would also be helpful to include your Sure Signal Serial number and ISP (Internet Service Provider).
Quite often other users of the same router will be able to share tips with you around setup and any extra security settings that may need to be enabled/disabled to get things working correctly. Wherever possible, we will also attempt to assist you with this, however due to the vast number of different manufacturers and models, it is not always possible, and we do not officially support any form of Router Configuration. For that reason we will always recommend contacting your Router Manufacturer or ISP for assistance first.
Please provide your ISP with some information supporting the network performance issue such as a number of speedtests performed throughout the day and a trace route.
Traceroute command:
On a PC:
On a Mac:
Thanks
LeeH
24-02-2014 02:51 PM - edited 24-02-2014 05:35 PM
My VSS (3) has been registered (acknowledging text received on my phone ) and all the router (Apple Extreme ). port forwarding settings complete . Static IP address also complete
The VSS is still not operational !!! .. Flashing red light and two outer lights orange .. Central 'service' light not lit.
This seems ludicrous . Goodness knows how the average punter is supposed to deal with setting up this VSS.
can someone tell me where to go next with this please. ?
Speed test download 6.74mbps upload 0.37 mbps
ping test 45 ms
external IP 82.69.55.27
SURE SIGNAL; SERIAL NO 40134707112
Tracert results below :--
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\CHRIS>tracert 212.183.133.177
Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 10.0.1.1
2 27 ms 26 ms 27 ms losubs.subs.dsl3.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.25]
3 29 ms 38 ms 27 ms ge-0-0-0-117.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.197]
4 27 ms 28 ms 30 ms xe-0-4-0-7.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [83.23
1.235.229]
5 29 ms 27 ms 26 ms xe-0.cw.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.8.13
0]
6 27 ms 26 ms 31 ms 195.2.30.61
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12
24-02-2014 08:49 AM
NOT RESOLVED YET ! ( indication of resolution is incorrect )
The results of the information requested are below. . The Suresignal is still not working .. After 48hours, the red light simply flashes. The outer two other lights are fixed orange. The centre light is unlit ..
thanks
speed test results download 6.74 mbps upload 0.37 mbps
ping test results 45ms
external IP address . 82.69.55.27
The results of a traceroute.
Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 4 ms 1 ms 1 ms 10.0.1.1
2 26 ms 27 ms 27 ms losubs.subs.dsl3.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.25]
3 26 ms 26 ms 28 ms ge-0-0-0-117.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.197]
4 27 ms 29 ms 27 ms xe-0-4-0-7.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [83.231.235.229]
5 50 ms 28 ms 27 ms xe-0.cw.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.8.130]
6 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms 195.2.30.61
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out. 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * ^C
Sure Signal serial number: 40134707112
CAFOULK
24-02-2014 06:45 PM
Hi CAFOULK,
The light sequence you’re seeing shows that your Sure Signal hasn’t been able to authenticate on our servers during the set up process.
Your IP address is on our whitelist, so no problems there either.
Your traceroute doesn’t appear to reach our servers so this may be a cause of your issue.
Can you re-run the test and post the results?
Your ping test is fine, but your upload speed is close to the minimum needed for the unit to work.
Do you have any other devices that also use your connection?
If you do, can you disconnect them and see if the Sure Signal then connects?
If it does, you’d need to speak with your Internet Service Provider (ISP) about increasing your connection speed.
Also, check to make sure that the following ports are open/forwarded on your router:-
Port Number
8 TCP UDP
50 TCP UDP
53 TCP UDP
67 UDP
68 UDP
123 UDP
500 UDP
1723 TCP UDP
4500 UDP
33434 - 33445 UDP
Let me know how you get on.
Cheers,
Andy
24-02-2014 09:47 PM
Further update of test as requested :------
C:\Users\CHRIS>tracert 212.183.133.177
Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms 10.0.1.1
2 27 ms 228 ms 202 ms losubs.subs.dsl3.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.25]
3 126 ms 105 ms 199 ms ge-0-0-0-117.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.197]
4 212 ms 26 ms 176 ms xe-0-4-0-7.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [83.23
1.235.229]
5 87 ms 203 ms 101 ms xe-0.cw.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.8.13
0]
6 123 ms 203 ms 101 ms 195.2.30.61
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * *
06-03-2014 04:27 PM
All the port forwarding is set up as suggested.
I have two solid white lights (LEFT AND CENRAL ).. Right hand light stays out .
Red light is on and constant.
CMD READINGS as follows:-
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\CHRIS>tracert 212.183.133.177
Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 10.0.1.1
2 27 ms 27 ms 26 ms losubs.subs.dsl1.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.17]
3 26 ms 30 ms 27 ms ge-0-0-0-113.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.181]
4 27 ms 27 ms 26 ms xe-0-4-0-7.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [83.23
1.235.229]
5 29 ms 28 ms 26 ms xe-0.cw.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.8.13
0]
6 27 ms 29 ms 27 ms 195.2.30.61
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 *
I got a 3G signal for about 10 minutes and then hasn't worked for last 5 days .. Not a glimmer !!
I have disconnected everything else .. (Phones, Laptops , etc.. ) Has no effect at all
What else would you suggest ?
Extremely frustrating ...!!
06-03-2014 04:32 PM - edited 06-03-2014 04:37 PM
All the port forwarding is set up as suggested. Namely:---
Port Number
8 TCP UDP
50 TCP UDP
53 TCP UDP
67 UDP
68 UDP
123 UDP
500 UDP
1723 TCP UDP
4500 UDP
33434 - 33445 UDP
I have two solid white lights (LEFT AND CENTRAL ).. Right hand light stays out .
Red light is on and constant.
CMD READINGS as follows:-
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\CHRIS>tracert 212.183.133.177
Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 10.0.1.1
2 27 ms 27 ms 26 ms losubs.subs.dsl1.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.17]
3 26 ms 30 ms 27 ms ge-0-0-0-113.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.181]
4 27 ms 27 ms 26 ms xe-0-4-0-7.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [83.23
1.235.229]
5 29 ms 28 ms 26 ms xe-0.cw.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.8.13
0]
6 27 ms 29 ms 27 ms 195.2.30.61
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 *
I got a 3G signal for about 10 minutes and then hasn't worked for last 5 days .. Not a glimmer !!
I have disconnected everything else .. (Phones, Laptops , etc.. ) Has no effect at all
What else would you suggest ?
Extremely frustrating ...!!
07-03-2014 01:31 PM
Hi CAFOULK
I can see that although the Sure Signal has updated to the latest software, there was some errors, so I have arranged for this to be resent.
Please allow 24 hours without turning the power off or resetting the device.
Once this has been done, please reset your phone, the best way would be to power off, remove SIM and battery (if possible), then replace battery and power up without SIM.
Once this has been done, input SIM and start up as normal.
If this hasn't connected at this point, please reset the Sure Signal, you will need to hold the reset button for a minimum of 20 seconds, and then reset your phone as above.
I have noticed that the IP address looks as though it could be a business one, where there may be firewalls etc.
If you're still having issues, please can you try this on another connection (at home, friend or family members).
Let me know how you get on.
DaveCD
10-03-2014 03:12 PM - edited 10-03-2014 03:19 PM
Dave
Thanks for the advice.
I have re booted my phone as described.
Unfortunately, the VSS has now changed so that the two outer lights are a steady orange, but the centre light is now off .
The red is now flashing.
Can you re- examine.. The VSS was left for 24 hours as suggested.
There are no Firewalls .. This is a business phone account but the VSS is in a home address ..
latest CMD
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\CHRIS>tracert 212.183.133.177
Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 3 ms 10.0.1.1
2 28 ms 26 ms 27 ms losubs.subs.dsl1.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.17]
3 29 ms 27 ms 29 ms ge-0-0-0-113.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.181]
4 26 ms 27 ms 27 ms xe-0-4-0-7.r02.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [83.23
1.235.229]
5 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms xe-0.cw.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.8.13
0]
6 39 ms 27 ms 27 ms 195.2.30.61
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 *
thanks
Chris F
10-03-2014 06:19 PM
Hi Chris,
The lights that you’re seeing show that the Sure Signal hasn’t been able to authenticate itself on our servers.
Strangely though, it connected to our servers last night at 21:47.
I’d suggest checking with your ISP (Internet Service Provider) to see if they’ve been performing any maintenance recently that may be affecting your connection.
As the right ports are open/forwarded, can you confirm that the router’s MTU (Maximum Transmission Unit) is set to 1500?
If this doesn’t help, the next option would be to try the device in a different location such as a family member or friend, preferably with a different ISP.
Let me know how you get on.
Cheers,
Andy
25-02-2014 09:05 AM
Hi CAFOULK,
Thanks for supplying your details.
Your IP, traceroute and speedtests all came out great. Looking at your Sure Signal, I can see it's struggled to synchronise with our servers. I'm pushing a manual sync through now. Reset your device, then give it an hour and it should come back online.
If it doesn't, can you let me know if your router has assigned a fixed IP for your Sure Signal and who your ISP is?
Cheers, Ben