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FTTP/Cityfibre. Traffic shaping suspected. Poor download speeds during evenings. MUCH better on VPN

Martynux
3: Seeker
3: Seeker

Dear Vodafone,

 

It is time you admit that you are applying traffic shaping on your internet connection during the evenings.

I have always wondered why some traffic goes through better than other in the evenings.

I have done extensive testing in the past few days and I have come across to the below findings:

Internet connection speeds drop down to miserable 2-3 megabits download during the evenings / peak time. Upload though goes well and I'd say it is intact.

So I have done some testing. I have connected to different VPN providers to the servers nearby in the UK as well as abroad as far as Iceland and Lithuania.

And guess what - Over the VPN I get 200+ mbps results, immediately as I drop out from VPN and do the test on a clean line I again get those miserable few megabits.

Now if you are technical enough you must understand the irony here.

Going through VPN channel always should give you lower speeds as extra hops and conditions involved in the traffic/equipment. However when on VPN, speed test results are always better. Always, not sometimes, but always. And considerably much better than having connection without being wrapped up in VPN.

This indicates only one thing - QOS/Traffic shaping is in place with Vodafone during peak times.

Tell me, Vodafone, please, why when I am paying for 900mbps I am getting the service of a few megabits during peak times? And please, keep that rubbish to yourself when you start stating - oh it is probably your router, your Wi-Fi and so on. No it is not! I know it is not. I am getting exactly the same results on wired connection using Vodafone or any other router. To be precise your router is a piece of junk that is good for grandmas who watch BBC iPlayer and send three WhatsApp messages a day. I am and advanced user, a technician in fact, with 20+ years of IT support under my belt. 

It is not my router to blame, not my corporate grade wireless access point, not even cheap Vodafone router to blame, it is the policies that Vodafone has set on the back end to shape the traffic during busiest periods.

And it is not fair. I am paying for 900mbps service, yet during evenings I get 300 times slower speeds than I am paying for. Even daytime I rarely reach anything more than 500mbps, it doesn't really bother me that much as I consider speeds above 100mbps acceptable and I simply have no patience to call your India-based call centres and speak to so called "experts" who read from the script, have little to no actual knowledge, and won't deviate from script that they read from the knowledge-base and give a pre-defined answers from templates.

 

Explain this please, how is this fair, and how is this a good value for money that I am paying? I am actually considering leaving Vodafone, at least when I had broadband over copper line I was getting consistent speeds 24/7. Heck, even with 3 mobile 4G connection I had better speeds than with you guys! 

I see no reason why I should be utilising VPN in order to increase my internet browsing experience. It is an extra expense as well as extra burden that I have to go through in order to reach acceptable connection speeds.

 

Three days ago, in the evening I was trying to download 5 gigabyte Windows 10 ISO file from Microsoft, I was getting estimated time of download of 7 hours over 900mbps FTTP line. Makes sense? - Thought so, it does not make sense to me either.

 

Feel free to reach out to me for troubleshooting if you are brave enough to deal with me, I promise you, I won't go easy on you, but I promise to be reasonable and respectful. However I won't take your nonsense and won't accept that it is something to do with my equipment, because I know it is not the equipment.. It is not, and I know, period!

I have done plenty of testing internally, I have tested my independent wireless AP throughput over local network and I have amazing results as long as Vodafone is not in the picture. Anything routed through Vodafone internet link is rubbish unless I wrap that device that is reaching out to the internet to VPN. 

I really don't enjoy having to jump through the hoops just to have something that should be provided to me already because it is a contractual obligation. I expect the service to be delivered as per contract, not some lame excuses from cheap labour agent somewhere in India who has no idea what he is talking about.

 

So to sum this up:

 

From 18:00 onwards to around 22-24h connection speeds drop dramatically to miserable few megabits, sometimes if lucky 30-40mbps, never goes above 100. 

No difference if Vodafone or other independent router / access point used, connection still rubbish.

When on VPN, then connection is much better - going to 200-300mbps speeds.

Outside those hours connection speeds are much better, good enough not to complain about. 

I work from home supporting different timezones and working during evenings is a challenge due to this issue. I certainly have an impact on my work performance due to this.

 

My equipment/plan:

 

Cityfibre FTTP 900mbps.

Draytek Vigor 2925 router

Ubiquiti Unifi UAP-nanoHD.

Location: Aberdeen

 

To add a cherry on top of this cake: it is not only me that is having this issue here in Aberdeen. There are 3 more of us (and I can provide their details on request) who are subscribed to Cityfibre/Vodafone FTTP service and we all are having exactly the same issue during evenings. We all live in different areas of the city, so the problem is city-wide, not only to specific area within the city. 

Please get this sorted rather than ignore or give silly answers claiming it is our equipment. It is not. I know it, and you know it too. Time to call things as they are. 

 

Best regards,

 

Marty

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Gemma
Community Manager
Community Manager

@Swine - I'm sorry I've just seen on your other post - that you don't have a Social Media account. 

I appreciate you've already contacted us via the other methods several times. For us to help further, it does require access to your account. 

Please can you call us on 191 free from a Vodafone mobile or 08080 034 515 from another network or landline. When yo do this, please advise that you'd like to escalate a complaint and the agent you talk to can go from there. 

I might try this number today for my additional family member.

 

Yesterday I was calling the compliant team. And eventually the complaints team transfer you to the sales team........

 

Just like a dodgy insurance company. You never get a person who can help you. 

 

 

 

 

Amanda
Community Manager
Community Manager

Hello everyone - I just wanted to pop a quick post on to let you know this is being investigated. 

Once we have any further news, we'll let you know. I appreciate everyone's patience whilst we look into this. 

Hi I am having exact same issue fine in the day soon as near 7pm it drops to about 4mbps. Have been sending 2nd line some test speed screen shots but no joy yet

Jayach
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

@Pauljbl 

If you look at all the other threads about this problem, you will realise 2nd line really don't need your speed test results.

They must be aware of the wider problem going on, but still insist on treating each call as if it is a one off.

They really should treat us as adults, and tell us the truth,

Anonymous
Not applicable

Just to add to this. Had perfectly working 900/900 for the first month. Low and behold as soon as the month of overlap id planned with the old copper line ended the fibre went to pot.

 

Now getting 8down 0.3up and what I can only assume are DNS issues as nothing loads. Backup dongle doesn't kick in as its technically still connected.

This is in the Reading area and has happened once a week or so ago but only for a few hours. Now the internet has been unuseable for 3 days. Appreciate its not evening traffic issue as seems to be the same whenever I check it.

Jayach
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

@Anonymous 

I suspect your problem is not the same as others on this thread. I would suggest starting your own, or it could become very confusing.

gipjon
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

@Amanda wrote:

Hello everyone - I just wanted to pop a quick post on to let you know this is being investigated. 

Once we have any further news, we'll let you know. I appreciate everyone's patience whilst we look into this. 


hello @Amanda 

can we have a timeframe for the investigation and when will we be notified of the outcome?    Or is this going to be like the Vodafone email that you sent out when you joined Vodafone telling you to check your account and make sure it's correct but the joke was you can't until your broadband went live,

Vodafone moderates were posting for over 2 years saying I'm very sorry about this issue and we are currently investigating this issue, and that was just to change the wording on the email 

Hey @gipjon I hope you're well. 

We unfortunately don't have a time scale for the investigation. I appreciate that this is incredibly frustrating but all we can do right now is check in with the team regularly and provide you with updates as and when we receive them. 

gipjon
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

@Effie wrote:

Hey @gipjon I hope you're well. 

We unfortunately don't have a time scale for the investigation. I appreciate that this is incredibly frustrating but all we can do right now is check in with the team regularly and provide you with updates as and when we receive them. 


many thanks, moderator @Effie and manager @Amanda for confirming on behalf of Vodafone that Vodafone has acknowledged that it has a network-wide issue and Vodafone has issued an investigation. 

Lucky for us users we are not bound by Vodafone policy and we can make noise in the right places. 

 

This reminds me of the last time when this same issue was happening on FTTC and users were using VPN to get around the issue when Vodafone had to update their backend server. I lost count of how many users were writing to media and Ofcom etc. It was funny how some of us knew about the tech media company posting the article that hit the media before it happened. It's great that some of us users get together and chat/post in other places.

I'm not sure if admin Michelle would like to have a chat before we start clubbing together again . if @Effie or @Amanda can notify her unless she has left and TJ has taken her job