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FTTP/Cityfibre. Traffic shaping suspected. Poor download speeds during evenings. MUCH better on VPN

Martynux
3: Seeker
3: Seeker

Dear Vodafone,

 

It is time you admit that you are applying traffic shaping on your internet connection during the evenings.

I have always wondered why some traffic goes through better than other in the evenings.

I have done extensive testing in the past few days and I have come across to the below findings:

Internet connection speeds drop down to miserable 2-3 megabits download during the evenings / peak time. Upload though goes well and I'd say it is intact.

So I have done some testing. I have connected to different VPN providers to the servers nearby in the UK as well as abroad as far as Iceland and Lithuania.

And guess what - Over the VPN I get 200+ mbps results, immediately as I drop out from VPN and do the test on a clean line I again get those miserable few megabits.

Now if you are technical enough you must understand the irony here.

Going through VPN channel always should give you lower speeds as extra hops and conditions involved in the traffic/equipment. However when on VPN, speed test results are always better. Always, not sometimes, but always. And considerably much better than having connection without being wrapped up in VPN.

This indicates only one thing - QOS/Traffic shaping is in place with Vodafone during peak times.

Tell me, Vodafone, please, why when I am paying for 900mbps I am getting the service of a few megabits during peak times? And please, keep that rubbish to yourself when you start stating - oh it is probably your router, your Wi-Fi and so on. No it is not! I know it is not. I am getting exactly the same results on wired connection using Vodafone or any other router. To be precise your router is a piece of junk that is good for grandmas who watch BBC iPlayer and send three WhatsApp messages a day. I am and advanced user, a technician in fact, with 20+ years of IT support under my belt. 

It is not my router to blame, not my corporate grade wireless access point, not even cheap Vodafone router to blame, it is the policies that Vodafone has set on the back end to shape the traffic during busiest periods.

And it is not fair. I am paying for 900mbps service, yet during evenings I get 300 times slower speeds than I am paying for. Even daytime I rarely reach anything more than 500mbps, it doesn't really bother me that much as I consider speeds above 100mbps acceptable and I simply have no patience to call your India-based call centres and speak to so called "experts" who read from the script, have little to no actual knowledge, and won't deviate from script that they read from the knowledge-base and give a pre-defined answers from templates.

 

Explain this please, how is this fair, and how is this a good value for money that I am paying? I am actually considering leaving Vodafone, at least when I had broadband over copper line I was getting consistent speeds 24/7. Heck, even with 3 mobile 4G connection I had better speeds than with you guys! 

I see no reason why I should be utilising VPN in order to increase my internet browsing experience. It is an extra expense as well as extra burden that I have to go through in order to reach acceptable connection speeds.

 

Three days ago, in the evening I was trying to download 5 gigabyte Windows 10 ISO file from Microsoft, I was getting estimated time of download of 7 hours over 900mbps FTTP line. Makes sense? - Thought so, it does not make sense to me either.

 

Feel free to reach out to me for troubleshooting if you are brave enough to deal with me, I promise you, I won't go easy on you, but I promise to be reasonable and respectful. However I won't take your nonsense and won't accept that it is something to do with my equipment, because I know it is not the equipment.. It is not, and I know, period!

I have done plenty of testing internally, I have tested my independent wireless AP throughput over local network and I have amazing results as long as Vodafone is not in the picture. Anything routed through Vodafone internet link is rubbish unless I wrap that device that is reaching out to the internet to VPN. 

I really don't enjoy having to jump through the hoops just to have something that should be provided to me already because it is a contractual obligation. I expect the service to be delivered as per contract, not some lame excuses from cheap labour agent somewhere in India who has no idea what he is talking about.

 

So to sum this up:

 

From 18:00 onwards to around 22-24h connection speeds drop dramatically to miserable few megabits, sometimes if lucky 30-40mbps, never goes above 100. 

No difference if Vodafone or other independent router / access point used, connection still rubbish.

When on VPN, then connection is much better - going to 200-300mbps speeds.

Outside those hours connection speeds are much better, good enough not to complain about. 

I work from home supporting different timezones and working during evenings is a challenge due to this issue. I certainly have an impact on my work performance due to this.

 

My equipment/plan:

 

Cityfibre FTTP 900mbps.

Draytek Vigor 2925 router

Ubiquiti Unifi UAP-nanoHD.

Location: Aberdeen

 

To add a cherry on top of this cake: it is not only me that is having this issue here in Aberdeen. There are 3 more of us (and I can provide their details on request) who are subscribed to Cityfibre/Vodafone FTTP service and we all are having exactly the same issue during evenings. We all live in different areas of the city, so the problem is city-wide, not only to specific area within the city. 

Please get this sorted rather than ignore or give silly answers claiming it is our equipment. It is not. I know it, and you know it too. Time to call things as they are. 

 

Best regards,

 

Marty

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Gemma
Community Manager
Community Manager

Hi everyone,

After liaising with our Support Teams, it’s been confirmed we’ll need to raise the reported issues you’re facing, individually. This means we’ll need to take your account details, to go through tests and then raise an investigation ticket.

Once we’ve done this, my team can set reminders on the social conversation, so that we can continue to monitor your accounts for updates. This then avoids you having to chase things up.

I understand that this is frustrating and I’m sorry I’ve not got an immediate resolution for you.

For anyone that uses Facebook or Twitter, please contact us through Social Media and include a link to my post here.

If there’s anyone who doesn’t have access to Social Media, then please call us on 191 free from a Vodafone mobile or 03333 040 191 from a different phone. We're also available through Live Chat.

Hi Gemma. This makes no sense. It’s a nationwide issue people are facing from the south of England right up to me in Aberdeen. There’s another forum posts with over 700 replies about this.  Just gonna end up cancelling. Support is beyond unhelpful 

Cynric
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

.@Gemma Treating each case individually seems to me that it will cost Vodafone more money and time than treating them collectively. Surely there is an economy of scale to consider with this problem?

The best ever move I did was move ISP away from Vodafone. They are unable to assist you as their support treats you like complete imbeciles. 

 

My new ISP has English only call centres, who don't treat you like a criminal, they are tech savvy. Have amazing forum support staff who can actually help you via their forum. 

 

But

 

More importantly, my connection is now 100% stable. Speeds are 100% day and night. And I'm still running on the same physical line my side.

 

Making the jump to someone else seriously improves your internet and stress levels. 

 

 

 

 

Any hint as to who the new ISP is? Would like to move to them if that’s what you get! @Swine 

I think my post will be removed if I talk about competitor products mate. But it's been a huge PLUS moving my NET to someone else. 

😂haha

gipjon
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

Scooty996 wrote This makes no sense. It’s a nationwide issue people are facing from the south of England right up to me in Aberdeen. There’s another forum posts with over 700 replies about this

 

I think that's the idea to waste everyone's time. If everyone is busy pm'ing social media. they are not emailing Ofcom and the newspapers.

And the other reason is to try and hide the fact it is a national issue with Vodafone . 

gipjon
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

There is another reason because everyone is entitled to compensation. They may want to sort it individually as each person may be awarded more or less depending on how much you are affected. 

I'm not sure if anyone has posted yet in the other thread to let others know. what the forum staff are telling users to do

@gipjon compensation is only due if you are on openreach, cityfibre customers can't get anything as they haven't signed up to the compo scheme