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20-01-2024 03:53 PM
Hi…
Can anyone help me with this? I’m not very techy so bear with me.
I recently changed to Vodafone broadband/landline from BT. It has changed to digital voice so I now only have one working phone (attached to my router). I asked the engineer how I can use my other phones and she didn’t have a clue. I basically want one more phone upstairs so I don’t have to keep running up & down the stairs. I got an RJ11 as suggested on here..plugged it into the socket and it didn’t work. Is it even possible? It’s the only thing that has annoyed myeloma by changing as it appears to be that you can mow only have one phone? Is this correct? If so why aren’t customers being told about this before changing? I really think that this is going to open a big can of worms if it can’t be sorted easily. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
25-01-2024 05:24 PM
Hi…sorry my message perhaps didn’t come across in the right tone. I wasn’t having a go at you..mea culpa. I do appreciate your help and advice.
My main phone is a BT one so can I add a DECT to that or would they all have to be DECT to be compatible? Just reading that back it might sound stupid as I understand it’d have to be plugged in to the router. Are my upstairs BT sockets now redundant?
so I can have a phone upstairs it just wouldn’t be plugged in upstairs? It’s base would be downstairs plugged in to the router and I’d basically carry it up with me?? Sorry again and thank you…
25-01-2024 10:16 PM
Hello Jayach,
I hope you don't mind me jumping in on this post and I hope I'm not breaking any Community rules, but your answer to this might be helpful to AllyJMcA as well. I am a new Vodafone broadband customer of just over a week, that is still waiting for my landline phone to be connected, but hopefully after several hours of 'chatting' it may get sorted out. 😣
However I have been looking for an answer to my question about using both the green phone sockets on the THG3000 (serial number: CP2323RAYB6) router and your answer here is the first I've found after searching for hours. I have a FTTC broadband connection, which after an Openreach repair a few days ago is fine now, but as I say, no phone connection, but when/if it is connected can I plug in two BT type phones, (via the supplied adapter cable of course, plus another I will buy) one corded phone and one DECT phone? If I can, I presume the corded phone will be powered from the router, as I want to connect a battery back-up system for the router, because we do have power cuts and of course the land line phone is then no good in any emergency.
I do have a mobile phone but sometimes the reception isn't good inside the house, and as I am nearly 73 and live alone I need to be confident of having a phone, just in case, hence the reason for the battery back-up for the router. I could have a battery back-up for the DECT cordless phone as well, but I'm sure with both it wouldn't last too long if the power was out, plus it could get quite expensive for a larger one, especially an UPS type, which I don't really want to get, I can simply connect a battery back-up to the router, I'm not too worried about the short temporary loss of service while I do it.
By the way, I am a retired Electronic Technician and have been using and building computers and electronic test equipment from about 1975, so I'm able to understand a more technical answer, but as I say, it might help AllyJMcA, if he/she could plug a DECT phone into one green socket with the provided phone adaptor (RJ11 to BT type socket) then use another adaptor to connect to the house phone extension, although as you rightly mentioned with voice re-injection and FTTC, the extension cable would then need to have a BT type plug fitted to do this and of course remembering that both phones would be useless in a power cut.
Sorry again to add to this post, but as I say, this is the first I've seen mentioning about using both the green phone sockets. Thanks for any help. Vince.
25-01-2024 10:49 PM
Hi @Vincenzo123 welcome to Vodafone. Yes, as a new FTTC user your phone connection will be digital. (I'm also on FTTC, but still on the PSTN)
@AllyJMcA hasn't actually said if they are on FTTC or FTTP (I suspect FTTC) but has said they're not technical so I didn't go into the differences of connecting the extension wiring to the router in each case.
Until the PHONE led on the router has illuminated the digital line isn't setup, so contact Vodafone if it doesn't happen soon. Sometimes a factory reset of the router is needed to get it to pick up the correct configuration.
The green TEL sockets are separate hardware wise, but the system seems to treat them as one, although a previous poster stated they were able to make a call on one whilst the other was in use. Can't confirm it myself because, as I say, I'm not on digital voice.
Yes, if you battery back-up the router, an analogue phone connected to the TEL socket(s) should continue to work.
You may find the support from Vodafone (should you need it) severely lacking, but there are good few knowledgeable posters on the forum.
Welcome again.
25-01-2024 11:46 PM
Hi Jayach,
Thank you for the reply, I didn't expect to get one this late, so I'm very grateful, and thanks for the welcome.
Yes, I did see that AllyJMcA was not too technically minded but I hoped I could be helpful to her as well and others in the future if I can. I haven't tried the PSTN phone socket on my new MK4 Openreach socket that has just been installed. I did ask the very good Openreach Engineer, (he was the only one in over three years that would check the cable down from the pole, where I always knew the fault was, (very poor/noisy telephone and intermittent Broadband in windy/rainy weather) but no one else would listen!) he replaced the cable and guess what, the broadband now works perfectly, as it should have 3+ years ago! He did say the 48/50v power may still be there but it would go, so I suppose the phone connection will go as well, even supposing it is still there.
I have done multiple resets/power off and disconnecting/reconnecting phone, etc, etc, but still no phone (no white phone LED) even after being on with the Chat person today for an hour and a half, although they assured me they had advanced my problem to others, so it might come on in the next few days, but I'm not holding my breath!
I was informed today (via text) that my repair ticket would expire tomorrow so if I was still having trouble to phone on 0808 0057320 quoting my reference number, which I tried to do before going the nearly 'Mission Impossible' Chat way, but the automated answer said to put in my six figure ref. number, but I had been given an eight figure one, so it wasn't accepted and the call was ended! How does that work then!? 🤔
Yes, I had seen while searching that a BT customer was able to call on one phone while another was in use, in fact I'm sure I've seen this as a feature on a BT web site, however it wasn't mentioned if they were using both green phone sockets, or indeed if the BT router had two phone sockets.
Thank you for the info on the router powering a corded phone, I thought it would do but nice to have it confirmed, by the way I was talking about a 'tone' phone not a 'pulse' dial one, I know those cannot be used on digital voice, although again I have seen mention of a pulse to tone adapter that can be used, but they are quite expensive, it's a shame really as I have a couple of old Trimphones I have repaired and was using, ... oh well, I suppose that's progress! 😞
Hmmm, ... yes I have found Vodafone support to be a bit lacking, although to be fair most ISP's are like that now, but if you persevere and are polite and willing to stay for hours with an actual 'Chat' real person, they do seem to try their best to help and progress any problems if needed.
Anyway, thanks again and please don't feel you have to answer this tonight, or any time, I'm just glad to chat with and get good answers from an knowledgable and informative real person. 😊Vince.
25-01-2024 09:35 PM
DECT phones are wireless, and the basic system would be a base station and it's handset, plus an extra charger and handset to use elsewhere in the house.
The base station would connect to the router, and you can have the other handset anywhere you like. (with the caveat that both require a mains socket)
Many come with built in answerphone, and that can be useful.
Yes, if you go DECT the extension wiring would be redundant.
Here are some suggestions from Google. (other search engines are available)
04-10-2024 12:38 PM
Yes DECT phones are good but I have a large old property so to get good wireless coverage everywhere I need to have 2 DECT base stations - one upstairs beside the incoming master socket and my ethernet hub.
I also have an outhouse as an office with a phone extension so while using DECT phones I still need a working extension system.
Like some of the others on this forum I also do not have a reliable mobile signal (no matter which provider) so being on my own and in my 70s I also need to have a phone that will work during the power cuts I get every so often.
I am FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet 1 mile away) and due to switch over later this month. I have found this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_KGXMcJHk which looks a useful guide on how to keep my phone network working (especially as there is a redundant master socket from when I had a fax line beside the working one).
04-10-2024 04:47 PM
@ScotinWales wrote:I also need to have a phone that will work during the power cuts I get every so often.
I didn't watch it all, but his video's are always good so I'm sure it's it will work, however no digital voice service will work during power cut's unless it includes a UPS. (uninterruptable power supply)
Unfortunately staying on the PSTN for much longer isn't an option so you will have to go to digital eventually.
26-01-2024 12:10 AM
Hi,
I'm sorry, if you see my replies to Jayach, I didn't mean to 'hijack' your post but I genuinely thought that I could possibly help as well, although what I have been saying might be a bit too technical, however I agree having a DECT phone would be good, but as I mentioned, do be aware that if there is a power cut, the landline phone will not be useable, that's why I was mentioning a battery back-up syatem, but if you have a reliable mobile phone service, this would be OK in a powercut if there was any emergency.
I did also assume in one post that you were female, so again I'm very sorry for doing this if I'm wrong.
However I do totally agree with you about opening a 'big can of worms', I have several older friends who haven't got a clue about all this and switching off the old BT phone service shortly (end of 2025?), some haven't even got broadband, so may have to have some temporary system (lasting possibly to 2030?) with a wired connection rather than a fibre one.
Anyway, I'm sorry again for jumping in, I hope you get a nice DECT phone with at least two handsets that you like. 😊 Vince.
26-01-2024 08:40 AM
@Vincenzo123 There are provisions in the roll-out of digital for people who rely on things like personal alarms and have medical issues, for example.