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30-03-2023 02:19 AM
This is about my Mum's account with Vodafone. She is 87, frail, with a heart condition. This is where we are at.
Mid-January: Mum moves to Vodafone from 02 for her mobile. They offer her broadband and landline cheaper than Sky, where was currently at. It will be no hassle to move, they say. We say OK.
February 6th: Broadband and phone line due to go active. Broadband does. Phone doesn't work. I go to Mum's to try to sort it out. I'm disabled, and have to take a taxi. Vodafone refuse to admit there is anything wrong, and say it will go live by midnight. I come home.
February 7th: Phone line still doesn't work. Vodafone won't speak to me without Mum present, so I get another taxi. Speak to Vodafone at Mum's. It will be working within a few hours, they say. I get added as authorised to speak on Mum's behalf.
February 8th: Phone line still not working. Vodafone asks me to try different things with the phone. I can't do that at home, so I get a third taxi, and a third wasted afternoon, to do these various things. Still doesn't work.
February 9th: After a fourth taxi fare to try out even more things, the line finally goes active thanks to nothing I have been asked to try. So far, I'm £120 down in taxi fares.
February 10th: We realise that something is not right with the phoneline, because it has call waiting on it (which we don't want), and doesn't have Voicemail (which we do). We report this to Vodafone. They say they will get on it.
February 11th to 15th: Numerous calls to Vodafone as the situation doesn't change. Call Waiting is unsafe for Mum. If we call her when she is on the phone, we get a ringing tone. That doesn't tell us whether she's talking to someone or whether she is ill/fallen over and can't get to the phone . But Vodafone tell us that Call Waiting isn't showing as active at their end, and therefore they can't remove it. Meanwhile, they say they are also unable to add Voicemail.
February 16th: I go to Mum's again to sort things out once and for all. Taxi fares are now £150 altogether. Vodafone tell us that they cannot sort out Mum's phoneline. We have three or four days left in the cooling off period, and decide to leave. After a bit of arguing, Vodafone agree to keep phoneline active until Sky take over again, but will still class it as leaving during the cooling off period. We ring Sky the same day, and put the order in for them to take over.
Over the next few weeks it is clear that the order isn't going through with Sky. Eventually we find out that Vodafone rejected the request for Sky to take over the line.
March 16th: With the previous order from Sky closed down, we now put through the order again with Sky to take over the broadband and landline from Vodafone.
March 21st: We are informed that Vodafone again have rejected the request for Sky to take over. Sky ask me to ring Vodafone and check there are no cancellations pending. I do this. I am told that there are. As asked by Sky, I request that they are removed so that the takeover can take place.
March 25th: Before putting through the third order with Sky, I call Vodafone again to check that those cancellations requests were removed. I was told that they were.
March 27th: We put through the third order with Sky. Third time lucky?
March 28th: We get a message from Sky saying that the takeover of the line has been rejected by Vodafone for the third time. I ring Vodafone to see what was going on. It turns out that the cancellations from the previous week were NOT removed as I was told on two occasions the week before.
Now: At the weekend, I need to place the order for a fourth time with Sky in the hope that a miracle might happen, but I'm guessing it won't.
So, what do I do now?
How do I make sure that Vodafone will release the number and the line as they should do?
Will they still waive the cancellation fee as promised on February 16th? (They'd better!)
What do I do if this goes wrong again???
I'm disabled. I have severe arthritis, and I have bipolar. The last two months have been a complete misery due to the actions of Vodafone. I neither have the patience or the health to keep dealing with this. We need it sorted. So if anyone has any ideas of what we should do, please let me know. While I'd like to threaten Vodafone with Ofcom, I probably don't have the strength to go through with it. My mental health has plummeted. My meds have been increased. I'm like a zombie. Someone, hopefully, can help with some advice. Thank you.
30-03-2023 08:06 PM
It's just a stab in the dark. The old GSM codes don't work on my line, but then I don't have free unofficial call waiting.
30-03-2023 08:40 PM
My biggest issue at this stage is why Vodafone won't let us leave. Not only have they stuffed the phone line, but we can't move away either.
30-03-2023 09:12 PM
@darinfan74 wrote:My biggest issue at this stage is why Vodafone won't let us leave. Not only have they stuffed the phone line, but we can't move away either.
That, unfortunately, is something we can't help with. They officially can't not let you leave if you are on FTTC and want to move to another FTTC supplier. those moves are regulated by Ofcom.
Have you called the complaints department, with the length of time you have been with Vodafone you are likely to be hit with a ETF (Early termination fee), only the Complaints team can really override that.
As you want Voicemail, that is also something not offered on digital voice with Vodafone. (like call waiting, but somehow you appear to have that) A DECT phone system with answer phone would be a way around that..
If you do swap back to broadband with Sky, it is likely to be VoIP for the phone also, although they say they will allow some customers to not have it.
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How is the broadband? If that is fine it may be worth finding a way to live with the phone.
30-03-2023 10:13 PM
Sky are happy to give Mum and ASDL internet connection (which is all she really needs), so that the phone doesn't get connected in the same way , and have confirmed that Voicemail will be included - as it was when she was with them before.
As for the early termination fee, Vodafone said on February 16th that we could leave with no fees (we were still in cooling off period anyway), but then they keep rejecting our ability to get out. Sky put the order in, and Vodafone block it. That said, Sky have agreed to pay any early termination fees we get charged by Vodafone, as they believed at the time that the first order issues might have been from their end - but we now know that it wasn't. But, we worry about those fees when we get to them.
As it is, Vodafone keep blocking/rejecting any attempt to get the phoneline back.. Sky put in the order. We get email/text verification from both Sky and Vodafone that its going through, and then Vodafone slam on the breaks somehow and for some reason, and it gets aborted.
It's a real mess, and I am just so exhausted!
30-03-2023 10:14 PM
The Broadband is fine, but is not something which Mum uses all that much at 87. The landline is much more important, as she sometimes gets confused with the mobile.
30-03-2023 05:32 PM - edited 30-03-2023 05:32 PM
Just to ensure we understand exactly where we are now, is your mum's phone connected to a BT/Openreach socket or the router? Are the calls she makes recorded on the account?
30-03-2023 05:48 PM
It's currently connected to the vodafone router, as they say it should be. I would need to check on her phone to see if the calls are logged, but I assume they are - although they should be all under the anytime price (or whatever Vodafone's version of Anytime is called).
30-03-2023 06:53 PM - edited 30-03-2023 06:55 PM
@darinfan74 wrote:It's currently connected to the vodafone router, as they say it should be. I would need to check on her phone to see if the calls are logged, but I assume they are - although they should be all under the anytime price (or whatever Vodafone's version of Anytime is called).
I have anytime calls on my line , but they are still logged in my account. (however I'm on PSTN but I would still expect them to be recorded on VoIP)