Does "Full fibre 1" include a landline and line rental?

[andyste1]

I'm going through the process of ordering full fibre 1, and it asks if I want to keep my landline number, suggesting that this package includes a landline rather than being a "broadband only" package. However the price (£22) seems too good to be true, especially as most providers charge £20+ just for line rental these days. 

Could someone please confirm that this package is FTTP broadband *and* includes a landline?

And assuming it does, is caller ID included? 

Thanks in advance 

[Jayach]

Yes it does include a "landline", it's connected via the router and is VoIP. (although it uses a standard analogue phone connection)

It does include Caller ID, but just about no other extras are available.

Bear in mind, it's a 2 year contract and there is a CPI+3.9% increase every April (This years will be 14.4%)

Why would you not go for double the speed for an extra 50p per month with Full Fibre 2?

[andyste1]

Thanks, I hadn't noticed the full fibre 2 price!

The reason I asked is because we're with Plusnet (regular broadband) who have started doing full fibre, however these packages don't include phone, which you have to go elsewhere for, pay £20+/mth for the line rental, and keep your existing copper line which seems daft.

I wasn't sure if other companies full fibre worked in the same way, and like I said, the Voda "full fibre 1" package seemed way too cheap to include both fttp and a phone. 

[HappyNomad]

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@andyste1 wrote:

I wasn't sure if other companies full fibre worked in the same way, and like I said, the Voda "full fibre 1" package seemed way too cheap to include both fttp and a phone. 

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Fibre 1 (38 mbps) and Fibre 2 (67 mbps) and  formerly known as Superfast 1 and 2 are both FTTC.  The FTTP packages are Full Fibre 100, 200, 500 and 900 - see table below.

• Full Fibre 1 offers average download speeds of 38Mbps. Prices start from £22 per month (£34 per month for Pro Fibre 1).
• Full Fibre 2 offers average download speeds of 67Mbps. Prices start from £22 per month (£34 per month for Pro Fibre 2).
• Full Fibre 100 offers average download speeds of 100Mbps. Prices start from £25 per month (£37 per month for Pro Full Fibre 100).
• Full Fibre 200 offers average download speeds of 200Mbps. Prices start from £30 per month (£42 per month for Pro Full Fibre 200).
• Full Fibre 500 offers average download speeds of 500Mbps. Prices start from £30 per month (£45 per month for Pro Full Fibre 500).
• Full Fibre 900 offers average download speeds of 910Mbps. Prices start from £45 per month (£55 per month for Pro Full Fibre 900).

[andyste1]

@HappyNomad thanks for clarifying, that wasn't obvious (to me!) on their website although I had my suspicions.

[Jayach]

Sorry but @HappyNomad is wrong (or at least the post could be misunderstood)  ALL the Full Fibre packages are FTTP (the clue is in the name), even 1 and 2.

The FTTC packages are called Fibre 1 and 2.

[andyste1]

Finally got around to signing up (it's actually for my parents), only to be told by Vodafone CS that you only get a fibre connection to the house with Full Fibre 100 or higher. Full Fibre 1 & 2, despite the name, still utilise copper lines.

Or was that customer rep wrong? I can't believe it's so difficult to get a definitive answer to all this! 

[Cynric]

@andyste1 It's marketing, and the other ISPs do this too. "Fibre" 1 & 2 are fibre to the cabinet (FTTC) and copper wire to the house. 

[Ripshod]

As far as I'm aware Fibre 1 & 2 are over copper (fttc) while Full Fibre 1 & 2 are as the name suggests full fibre (fttp) 

[andyste1]

It's very misleading calling them "Full Fibre 1 & 2"!