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SureSignal Device Not Working - BT Hub - Help!

DarrenBarrick
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We have recently replaced our Bt Hub and we are having a lot of trouble getting the SureSignal device to work. We have confirmed the device itself works on a separate internet connection (and router). The device itself sits with a power light on.

 

We have tried various calls to support but we have struggled to explain our environment and effectively communicate on the issue.

The device is currently setup with a direct connection to the internet (no firewall) on its own Static Ip. I can ping the device from an external site.

 

Some Details on the Bt Hub.

 

1. Product name: BT Hub

3. Firmware version: Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.82.1.1 (Type A) Last updated 09/10/12
4. Board version: BT Business Hub 3.0A
5. WAN: PPP Connected

Current MTU: 1452

 

We have found various and conflicting information about this issue.

http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Vodafone-Sure-Signal/Vodafone-Sure-Signal-Is-It-Compatible-With-PPPoE...

http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Vodafone-Sure-Signal/BT-Infinity-and-Sure-Signal/td-p/1039993

 

The sure signal device gives zero diagnostic information (very frustrating!). However we have managed to pull this log from our Bt Hub

 

17:32:20, 07 Nov. IN: BLOCK [5] Fragmented packet (IP 212.183.131.130-><My Static Ip> fragment_offset=1480)

17:21:01, 07 Nov. IN: BLOCK [5] Fragmented packet (IP 212.183.131.131-><My Static Ip> fragment_offset=1480)

 

Things we have tried.

1. Connecting the SureSignal device to our internal network (Nat) & Port Forwarding the relevant ports (VPN/NTP etc)

2. Modifying the MTU (1492 being the maximum the Hub will allow us to set)

3. Waiting 24 hours!

4. Rebooting & Resetting the device

5. Establishing outbound Vpn connections to other sources.

 

Any suggestions on what we can try next would be appreciated!

 

Regards,


Darren

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Retired-Lee
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

Hi DarrenBarrick,

Please take a look at our Sure Signal Troubleshooting thread. If this doesn’t resolve your query, please post your reply either below, or in the relevant thread, together with the details requested, including the following information.

Your speed test results from here.
Your ping test results from here.
Your external IP address from here.

The results of a traceroute.

Your Sure Signal serial number:


VSS Traceroute command

On a PC:
Click on Start and select Run
Type CMD into the Run box and press enter/click ok
A black box will appear.
In this box type tracert 212.183.133.177 press Enter
Paste the output of this command into your reply.

This will help us get the quickest possible resolution for you.

Thanks

LeeH

Your speed test results: Ping 26 ms / Download 35.98 Mbps / Upload 1.63 Mbps

Your ping test results: 15 ms / Jitter 2 ms.

Your external IP address : 217.37.36.228

Your Sure Signal serial number: 40114265917

 

The results of a traceroute. :   Please note: Our device has a static Ip, and is directly connected to the Bt Business Hub.

 

Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177] over a maximum of 30 hops:  

1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  <Server Ip>  

2    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  BTBusinessHub.home [<Internal Range>]  

3     7 ms     6 ms     7 ms  host81-134-80-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.134.80.1]  

4     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  213.120.182.141  

5     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  213.120.161.82  

6     8 ms     7 ms     7 ms  31.55.164.47  

7     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  31.55.164.107  

8     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  acc1-10GigE-0-1-0-5.bm.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.248.90]  

9    23 ms    23 ms    23 ms  core1-te0-4-0-4.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.248.4]  

10    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  peer1-xe2-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.254.100]  

11    17 ms    17 ms    15 ms  LNDGW2.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.124]  

12    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  85.205.116.14  

13     *        *        *     Request timed out.  

14     *        *        *     Request timed out.

 

 

Ben_H
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

Hi Darren,

 

Thanks for getting back to us with that information. From the report you've submitted, the packets seem to be transferring OK and looking at your serial number and IP details, everything seems to be in order with the registration. I'm going to manually force out a re-sync for you now. If you could do a factory reset to complete the process that would be great. If it's still not working after we've done this, is there any way you can test the Sure Signal on a different internet connection at all?

Cheers, Ben

Hi Ben.

 

I will get the device factory reset now.

 

We have tested the device on a different internet connection and it works ok.

 

Regards,

 

Darren

Hi DarrenBarrick,

 

Let us know how the reset goes.

 

I have taken another look and can see that there was a location change registered since the last connection - possibly when you were switching between connections. If the reset doesn't help, can you try switching the postcode to an alternate one via the "My Sure Signal" section on My Account for me, waiting for about an hour and then switching back to the correct one, just to refresh all location information in case something is conflicting behind the scenes? You may need to try another factory reset again to ensure this picks up.

 

Finally for now, can you confirm that you have the following ports open for forwarding for me?

 

 - 8

 - 50

 - 123

 - 500

 - 4500

 - 1723 (Proven useful on BT Home Hubs, so may help here as well)

 

Dave

The device has a static Ip - there is no firewall. All those ports are directly accessible.

 

I do find it strange that you would ever request any of these ports be forwarded for inbound traffic to the device (Especially port 123 typically used for NTP services) but that's perhaps just me :Smiling:

FYI reset the device as requested. Still no connectivity 

FYI logs continue to report

 

16:39:27, 09 Nov. IN: BLOCK [5] Fragmented packet (IP 88.82.13.170->217.37.36.228 fragment_offset=1480)

Hi DarrenBarrick

 

Thanks for getting back to us. Port 123 is for NTP synchronisation with our servers. The Sure Signal pulse emits signal and this needs to be synchronised against our servers to maintain security.

 

Do you have any way of changing your MTU to 1500?

 

Thanks

 

Wayne

Hi Wayne.


Thanks for the reply.

 

Allowing NTP outbound makes perfect sense. However I am not so sure about inbound. The device itself is not (I suspect!) listening for inbound connections on NTP. The device in fact does not appear to respond to any inbound request other than ICMP (although I guess there could be firewall ignoring all requests other than from vodafone!).

 

Regardless, the BT Hub prevents setting the MTU to anything larger than 1492.