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Version 3 VSS Lights (Power - flashing, Internet - off, In Service - orange, In Use - orange)

Retired-Lee
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

This thread has been created to discuss and troubleshoot the version 3 Sure Signal when the light sequence is as follows:

 

  • Power: Flashing
  • Internet: Off
  • In Service: Solid Orange
  • In Use: Solid Orange

 

Cause

 

This light sequence indicates the Sure Signal's not active and it has been unable to authenticate on the Vodafone network

 

Troubleshooting

 

Please restart your Sure Signal. If the symptoms continue please add the following details to this thread:

 

  • Your speed test results from here
  • Your ping test results from here
  • Your external IP address from here
  • Your Sure Signal serial number
  • The results of a traceroute

 

Traceroute command:

On a PC:

  1. Click on Start and select Run
  2. Type CMD into the Run box and press enter/click ok
  3. A black box will appear
  4. In this box type tracert 212.183.133.177 press Enter
  5. Paste the output of this command into your reply

 

On a Mac:

  1. Open Terminal (Applications, Utilities)
  2. Type 'traceroute 212.183.133.177'
  3. Press Enter

 

This will help us get the quickest possible resolution for you.

Thanks

LeeH

2,480 REPLIES 2,480

this is really anoying.

 

3 x resyncs

 

3 x dropped calls from line 2 support.

 

over 8hrs spent messing with this thing.

 

and im still none the wiser as to the actual fault.

 

i feel a refund coming on!

 

 

Hi Sukhi,

 

I've finally managed to try the Sure Signal elsewhere & have the same results I've been getting here. The Sure Signal opens with the red bar on the left on solidly; after a minute or so the leftmost of the trio of lights flashes white, then the unit settles into the pattern from l-r flashing red, off, solid orange, solid orange.

 

I configured my router for manual port forwarding as follows -

 

Hardware NAT: Enabled
Software QoS: Disabled
Destination     Proto.  Port Range  Redirect to
all             TCP     8           212.183.133.182
all             UDP     123         212.183.133.181
all             UDP     500         212.183.133.179
all             UDP     4500        212.183.133.178
all             TCP     50          212.183.133.177

I rebooted everything & the Sure Signal settled into the now familiar lights pattern.

 

What do we do now? A few thoughts/questions -

 

1. Has my box connected to Vodafone servers since the only known successful attempt in late June?

2. Have I set up port forwarding correctly?

3. Is there anything further I can do this end?

4. Is there anything you can try?

 

Hear from you soon.

 

Many thanks

 

Steve

 

 

to ee

surreyred
4: Newbie

I've had the sure signal a few months. It worked OK to start with, but over the last 2-3 weeks seems to keep dropping out - sometimes when I'm not using it, and often a couple of minutes in to a call. 

 

Please Help !

 

Speed test results Ping 12 ms Download speed 35.40 Mbps Upload speed 2.98 Mbps


Ping Test results packet loss 0% ping 18ms jitter 3ms


IP address 86.24.127.197


Serial No. 40131132322

 

tracert 212.183.133.177
Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 9 ms 11 ms 12 ms cpc17-reig4-2-0-gw.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com [86
.24.127.1]
2 8 ms 14 ms 16 ms hers-core-1a-ae1-1296.network.virginmedia.net [8
0.3.33.49]
3 10 ms 11 ms 19 ms brnt-bb-1c-ae10-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.25
3.174.205]
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 59 ms 33 ms 30 ms ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]
7 28 ms 32 ms 30 ms 85.205.116.6
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

 

Thanks.

 

Tim

tenuoustoaster
2: Seeker
2: Seeker

OK - so my new SureSignal isn't working either.

 

Traceroute from my mac as follows:

 

traceroute to 212.183.133.177 (212.183.133.177), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 172.101.1.201 (172.101.1.201) 44.773 ms 3.877 ms 1.111 ms
2 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 5.342 ms 7.848 ms 5.174 ms
3 217.32.141.128 (217.32.141.128) 36.113 ms 37.115 ms 34.959 ms
4 217.32.141.190 (217.32.141.190) 34.828 ms 45.774 ms 35.861 ms
5 217.41.216.194 (217.41.216.194) 38.590 ms 39.705 ms 39.238 ms
6 31.55.164.193 (31.55.164.193) 40.306 ms 42.255 ms 39.874 ms
7 31.55.164.109 (31.55.164.109) 39.076 ms 40.847 ms 37.664 ms
8 acc2-10gige-0-2-0-5.bm.21cn-ipp.bt.net (109.159.248.234) 37.650 ms
acc2-10gige-0-0-0-5.bm.21cn-ipp.bt.net (109.159.248.202) 39.691 ms 39.541 ms
9 core2-te0-15-0-14.ealing.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.248.170) 44.429 ms
core1-te0-3-0-16.ilford.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.248.156) 50.078 ms
core2-te0-3-0-15.ealing.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.248.158) 43.616 ms
10 peer1-xe4-1-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.193.152) 44.428 ms
peer1-xe11-1-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.254.112) 46.273 ms
peer1-xe4-1-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.193.152) 43.954 ms
11 lndgw2.arcor-ip.net (195.66.224.124) 53.354 ms 46.623 ms 50.297 ms
12 85.205.116.2 (85.205.116.2) 44.764 ms 341.640 ms 60.086 ms
13 * * *
14 * * *
15 * * *

 

Ping 46ms

Download 3.38Mbps

Upload 0.39Mbps

Jitter 1ms

External IP - 86.159.27.52

Serial Number - 401319443488

Postcode - OX49 5HG

 

Hope you can help

 

Tony

 

 

Hi all,

 

tenuoustoaster -The upload speed you're showing is just over the 0.33 minimum, so a number of devices using your connection could affect your connection.

 

I can also see that step 12 on the traceroute varied quite a bit and, on the second attempt, was well over the 200ms maximum time. As this can cause the connection to time out, I'd recommend speaking with your Internet Service Provider to see what is causing this. Show them the traceroute and point to that step to help them investigate.

 

I also noted that the serial number that you gave is not valid. If speaking with the ISP doesn't sort things, can you reconfirm it for me?

 

---------------------------------------------

 

mike1974 - It doesn't look like the Sure Signal has connected since the 9th, so I've done a resync. Reset the box to pick this up and let us know if it helps:

 

  • Locate the button on the base of the box next to the Ethernet ports.
  • Press and hold the button for approximately 30 seconds.
  • Once the lights come back on, release the button.
  • The Sure Signal will come online in around 1 hour.

---------------------------------------------

 

gadgetbloke - I can see the re-registering on the system, but it's still not connected with the servers. 

 

I've done a resync to pick up the change, so can you try one more reset?

 

It's also possible that the re-registration was too quick for the system to fully refresh. I'd generally suggest waiting about an hour after you deregister.

 

---------------------------------------------

 

martgadget - I'll certainly feed back the suggestion for you. It's the best way to find out what customers would like to see.

 

Most frequently, the ports are not an issue as everything is automatically configured. If there are issues, though, it just pays to check.

 

 - Port 8 is used to keep the VSS active.

 - Ports 50 and 123 are used for transmitting data and synchronising these transmissions.

 - Ports 500 and 4500 handle header structure, data format and so on.

 - For the BT Home Hub, port 1723 is used to establish the VPN connection.

 

The difference you see in different locations is usually down to different connections, routers and IP settings. It's not a case that the Sure Signal is buggy, but that sometimes there's a setting, connection speed or IP whitelist that needs to be sorted.

 

Dave

Hi Dave

 

Thanks for the reply, I have reset the box as suggested but unfortunately it has not made a difference.

 

Thanks

Mike

Hi Mike1974,

 

I’ve checked your serial number and it’s still not showing as having connected since the 9 July.

 

Are you able to try the Sure Signal on a different internet connection (a family member, friend etc)?

 

If the unit works there, it indicates there may be something in your current set up that’s preventing it from maintaining a stable connection to our servers.

 

If it doesn’t work in the other location, it may be that the Sure Signal is faulty and would need to be sent for repair.

 

Let me know how you go on.

 

 

 

Hi Jbickerton86,

 

The light sequences you’re seeing show two different things.

 

The first indicate that the Sure Signal is configuring and the second shows that it failed to authenticate during the set up process.

 

I’ve checked your serial number and can see it connected to our servers at 22:38 last night, are you still seeing the same lights?

 

To make sure it’s as up to date as possible, I’ve just resynced your Sure Signal for you.

 

To make sure it completes, can you do a factory reset for me:-

 

  • Find the button on the base of the unit next to the Ethernet ports
  • Press and hold the button for approximately 30 seconds
  • Once the lights come back on, release the button
  • The Sure Signal will come online in around one hour

 

Let me know how you go on.

 

Thanks,

 

Andrew

Hi,

 

I have since tried my sure signal at a friends address and i am still getting the same result. What should be my next step?

 

Thanks

Mike

Sukhi
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

Hi ms89028

 

Your Traceroute looks OK to me. I've given it a re sync from our end to see if that brings it to life :Smiling: You'll just need to factory reset to complete the process. 

 

-Locate the button on the base of the box next to the Ethernet ports.

-Press and hold the button for approximately 30 seconds.

-Once the lights come back on, release the button.

 

The Sure Signal will be back online in around 1 hour.

 

woodsini - That's great thanks for letting us know :Smiling:

 

mike1974 - If the issue persists at a different location, the next step would be a repair.

 

Thanks

 

Sukhi

Hi Dave,

 I have now installed an old router to see if that makes any difference. I briefly had solid lights on the first two white, but not the third. I have forwarded all ports and done a reset. now back to flashing red and two amber.

regards

Peter.