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10-01-2013 03:46 PM - last edited on 14-07-2014 05:29 PM by Jenny
This thread has been created to discuss and troubleshoot the version 3 Sure Signal when the light sequence is as follows:
Cause
This light sequence indicates the Sure Signal's not active and it has been unable to authenticate on the Vodafone network
Troubleshooting
Please restart your Sure Signal. If the symptoms continue please add the following details to this thread:
Traceroute command:
On a PC:
On a Mac:
This will help us get the quickest possible resolution for you.
Thanks
LeeH
27-08-2013 05:03 PM
Hello LeeH
Vodafone Technical Help
I live in W Wales and had bought a VSS so that my partner could use Vodafone in my home which has no mobile signal, and I was planning to move to Vodafone if it worked, and recommend V to several others I know with the same problem. This is an email combining my previous comments and everything I have done to try and make my VSS work.
I have a standard ISP - Plusnet part of BT with a stable and reasonable speed for W Wales – I check with SpeedTest regularly. My router is a TP-Link W8960N - standard and very reliable. All Wi-Fi, Ethernet, router ports etc work fine, and I have had no problems - except with the VSS which has never worked.
When I phoned VSS tech help I was told that certain router ports listed in an email had to be open, which frankly I didn’t understand; they couldn't help further at all, and I should contact my ISP. Plusnet knew of VSS problems but they don't support port opening, and cannot train on all routers anyway. They recommended PFConfig. I used this which seemed to set the listed ports open, and PFChecker confirmed that while it seemed to open all ports for the TCP protocol, two, 500 and 4500 on the UDP protocol, were blocked as being used by another application. What applications might this be and how could they be turned off, and is this important anyway? VSS tech help had no idea what to do about this, and suggested I call TP-Link. Several calls to China later they are seeing if they can help, but again they are not experts on VSS requirements.
I have also tried using other Ethernet ports on the router, rebooting everything several times, turning my McAfee firewall off, changing the Ethernet cable, etc etc. Nothing helps.
The information you folk at Vodafone Tech Help asked for are as follows.
Speed Test: Ping 41 ms; Download 3.76 MB/s; Upload 0.38 MBs
Ping Test: Ping 41 ms; Jitter 1 ms; B+
IP Address: 87.115.108.131
VSS Serial: 40132316312
Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 3 ms 4 ms 3 ms 192.168.1.1
2 41 ms 46 ms 41 ms lo0-central10.ptw-ag04.plus.net [195.166.128.194]
3 51 ms 53 ms 62 ms link-a-central10.ptw-gw01.plus.net [212.159.2.156]
4 61 ms 75 ms 50 ms 252.core.access.plus.net [212.159.0.252]
5 53 ms 54 ms 51 ms ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]
6 53 ms 52 ms 51 ms 85.205.116.14
7 * * * Request timed out ... and so on to .
30 * * * Request timed out.
Trace complete.
Frankly I am only a normal consumer not a computer comms expert, so really do not understand the significance of any of this. I assumed the VSS was plug and play like any other product. I have already spent many wasted hours on this, and if I can’t get it working I will simply have to get a refund and abandon ideas of Vodafone.
A very helpful user has kindly made some suggestions to me, but they haven’t worked sadly,
Is there any tech help from Vodafone that can help with this?
John Edge
28-08-2013 03:26 PM
Hi all,
mozzatechmo – As a Virgin Broadband and Sure Signal customer myself, I can vouch for there being no specific issue between the two. Mine has been working normally.
I’m glad it seems to be working now, and I’m sure that if there is any additional issue the ticket that was raised will help get top the bottom of this.
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surreyred - That's good news. Let us know if it goes down again.
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mhayler – Strange.
That said, I think we may be getting ourselves in a tangle here. You ran the pathping before which showed issues at step 7, which needs to be looked into by your Internet Service Provider. We won’t need more ping test information at this point.
Use the IP you’ve mentioned with the Traceroute instructions, not the ping test, and we’ll see if that brings up anything as well.
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johnedge – Sorry to see the problems you’re having. In the majority of cases the Sure Signal works as a Plug & Play device, but sometimes we need to address things which aren’t usually issues due to the nature of the set-up.
The ports are one of those features which are usually OK straight from set-up.
As mentioned, 500 and 4500 need to be opened for forwarding, but like your Internet Service provider we don’t have all the details for the variety of routers out there. The best people to speak with are the router manufacturers – their website may have guides which will help to arrange this.
The other details you’ve posted all seem fine. I’ve given your Sure Signal a resync in case the ports aren’t causing the issue, so give it a reset for me to see if that helps:
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cevasfit - there is no-one this can be escalated to. We legally cannot add IP addresses to the whitelist if they are not registered as UK IPs. Until they have been updated on the relevant databases we can't add these.
As mentioned, if they can let you know when it's been done, you can let us know and we'll be happy to sort it.
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steve0819 – We don’t rule out the box as a possible cause, but there’s no way to know and no point in a repair or replacement if the problem is something in the set-up or connection.
We check those options first as they’re something we can often see straight away.
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norwichlee – Everything there looks OK, although step 4 on the traceroute is a little volatile.
I’ve done a resync for you. Can you follow the steps I posted for JohnEdge and let me know if that helps?
Dave
28-08-2013 03:58 PM
As requested:
Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.12.254
2 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms host81-134-112-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.134
.112.1]
3 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 213.120.182.141
4 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms 213.120.161.82
5 12 ms 12 ms 13 ms 31.55.164.183
6 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms 31.55.164.107
7 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms acc1-10GigE-0-1-0-6.bm.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.
248.94]
8 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms core1-te0-15-0-15.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.
248.40]
9 17 ms 17 ms 16 ms peer1-xe0-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.2
54.96]
10 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms lndgw2.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.124]
11 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms 85.205.116.10
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15
29-08-2013 02:04 PM
Hi guys,
mhayler - That's all fine, so you just need to check with the service provider about step 7 on the pingpath.
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johnedge - The sequence you're generally seeing - flashing, off, on, on - means that the Sure Signal has failed to connect and authenticate with our servers.
When you first reset it, you should be seeing a solid power light with a slow pulsing Internet light whilst it initialises, then the first three lights solid and the last one off when it's ready to take calls.
Can you check a few other things for me?
- Make sure the router's Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU) is set to 1500. If that isn't possible, set it to the highest value allowed.
- Are the Ethernet lights on the Sure Signal lit, flashing or off?
If possible, can you also try the Sure Signal on a different internet connection, such as a friend's, relative's or neighbour's? If it works there we know the box is not faulty.
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PultersFarm - I haven't heard back on the request yet. When we do, we'll resync the Sure Signal and let you know so you can do a reset if it doesn't pick up straight away.
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norwichlee - You'd need to set it for both incoming and outgoing to allow traffic in both directions.
Dave
29-08-2013 05:49 PM
Hi Tech Team
The MTU is set to 1400. It seems it could go to 1492 max, but I have not yet managed to find out how to change it.
The Ethernet lights are as follows. Looking at cable in bottom socket, light on left green and steady. Light at right yellow/orange and blinking from time to time.
I will aim to try in neighbours internet connection in next 24 hrs, although as far as I know my connection speeds are far better than my friends here in Wales!
Thanks for your help
John
29-08-2013 06:22 PM
Hi Dave
Have tried to increase MTU to 1492, but it seems to flip back to 1400 on router reboot. 1550 is 'out of range'
Regards John
31-08-2013 09:03 AM
Hi Tech Team
We are now sorted - adding us to the white list seems to have done the trick. Thanks for your help!
To help others, our only problem seems to have been an operational issue. Sales didn't ask us for any information or ask us to register our device. We did actually register our device on our account (by chance when researching our problem) but this didn't sort our issue.
Ian at PF
31-08-2013 02:37 PM - edited 31-08-2013 02:37 PM
VF tech phone line level 2 tell me the SS V3 requires 1.5 upload speed.
After almost a month I now know that my new V3 is just an expensive paperweight.
02-09-2013 08:58 AM
Is the final IP address meant to be 85.205.116.10?
If so, why is step 7 an issue?
Tracing route to cluster4.vap.vodafone.co.uk [212.183.133.177]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.12.254
2 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms host81-134-112-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.134
.112.1]
3 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 213.120.182.141
4 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms 213.120.161.82
5 12 ms 12 ms 13 ms 31.55.164.183
6 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms 31.55.164.107
7 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms acc1-10GigE-0-1-0-6.bm.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.
248.94]
8 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms core1-te0-15-0-15.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.
248.40]
9 17 ms 17 ms 16 ms peer1-xe0-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.2
54.96]
10 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms lndgw2.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.124]
11 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms 85.205.116.10
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15
28-08-2013 06:49 PM
Hi Tech Help
Many thanks for your help which I have tried to follow. The results however have been as follows.
1. Obviously the VSS must be on to reset. So switched on, internet flashed and then eventually it moved to fail sequence P flashing; I off; IS Or: IU Or. Thi is the only lights config that I have ever seen. I then pressed reset. 30 secs no change in lights. well over 1 min - no change in lights. Release reset. ligts go off red goes steady and sequence repeats to Fail lights as above.
2. I then tried to hit reset immediately red light came on. No change - sequence to fail lights continued. Release reset lights go off and red goes steady and sequence starts again to fail lights.
3. Problem here is that your email suggests that when you press the reset lights go off and then come on, when you release reset. Opposite seems to happen for me. Hold reset nothing happens to lights at all - release reset, lights go off and connection sequence starts again.
Could you give more details about correcdt lights / reset sequence when VSS is on with fail lights showing in sequence above or correct sequence when you turn on VSS with immediate steady red showing.
Probably my last chance to get the VSS going!
Many thanks
John