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26-09-2015 11:55 PM
01-11-2016 02:31 PM
Thanks - losing internet is only a recent issue, so I hope it's "just" a hw fault .. though I'm suspicious that it's stable until we use Sonos.
I'll try Vf support and see what they can do about it ..
01-11-2016 02:58 PM - edited 01-11-2016 03:08 PM
Just a heads up on the Sonos wireless connection (which you may already know). Only one speaker needs to be in range of the wireless router and the others just need to be in range of another one as they automatically "mesh" and will forward the traffic on to the router. You may not be able to do it in your environment if all the speakers are a long way from the router but for it to work, each speaker just needs to be within wireless range of at least one other speaker and then one of them needs to be in range of the router,
PS. My Sonos did also lose Internet connection as well as losing connection to the controllers, although all non Sonos devices maintained Internet, it was very strange....
Cheers Pete
01-11-2016 03:24 PM
@PeteB01 Thanks, but meshing isn't possbile for me to all Sonos units.
You say you did lose connection - is your Sonos all working correctly now? If so, was that after connecting another switch downstream of the Vf router?
01-11-2016 03:46 PM
It's worth looking at your sonos set up. If you have at least one sonos component wired to the router, then you're using SonosNet (aka Boost) set up. That is, the sonos components create a wireless mesh network of their own. They don't use the VF router to communicate with each other. However, your controllers do connect via the VF router, so need to be in range of it. You mentioned that some are also connected via a managed switch. This can cause network storms, so you'll need to ensure that STP is enabled on the router.
01-11-2016 03:57 PM
@MrWhite thanks. I'm not at home at the moment, so may have some of this wrong, but I think I'm using all wired connections and no wireless for the Sonos units - they all have SonosNet disabled.
Some of the wired connections are into a Netgear GS108 that then connects to one of the Vf router LAN ports, but one Sonos unit is connected directly into a LAN port in the Vf router.
When I first came across the problem and worked with Sonos support, I thought it might be an issue with STP and the Netgear switch, but it was only the early GS108 models that had that problem and are on the Sonos list of unsupported kit.
I've not come across any STP configuration settings on the Vf router - is this a feature of the new firmware?
01-11-2016 04:14 PM
STP is not needed on the main router and is not a feature on the VF router. As the Netgear switch is unmanaged, then STP shouldn't be an issue either.
Is the VF router your only wireless device?
01-11-2016 04:31 PM
This is not issolated incident only for you. There was a software release and now my Router goes down at least 3 times a day. Sometimes soft reset brings it back and sometimes only hard reset. Luckily I have 8 more days and will be moving to another provider as this has become a joke
01-11-2016 05:24 PM
@MrWhite no I have two APs that I use for wireless access - I needed one of them for coverage, which is when I discovered the bug with the router firmware (Sonos controller won't connect after moving from external AP wifi to Vf router wifi), so I put the other one in as a workaround.
01-11-2016 05:09 PM
@dglasbrook, The original problem I had was that my Sonos kept losing internet (along with my NAS and wired PC not being able to talk to my wireless devices, although at the time I hadn’t linked the two issues). Then the controllers started dropping off as well and that was when it got unusable, so working with Sonos support we went though a lot and eventually changed Sonos to wireless, from originally having one speaker wired and the rest meshed, and that definitely fixed the internet dropping and controller issue. However about a month later I got to the bottom of the my wired/wireless issue and discovered this Vodafone router issue which I believe was the root cause of all my problems all along. After finding a router config that worked for me (no split SIDD or 5GhZ) I ran everything for 2 weeks (leaving Sonos wireless) and all was fine, so then I switched Sonos back to wired as I make use of SONOSNET for providing Android and wired connection to the network in rooms where the main wifi is weak and you can't connect anything other than Sonos speakers to SONOSNET in full wireless mode. After putting it back the internet issue did not return and has been Ok for a couple of week now. So I believe that in my case it was a combination of a wired Sonos configuration and this root cause VF router issue.
One test I would suggest you try (but it will depend on where your speaker are and how much you use them) is to temporarily turn off/disconnect any speakers that you can’t get within meshing range, set Sonos to wireless, disconnected all wires connection from all speakers and see how that works for a bit. Clearly it won’t be a permanent fix but the outcome of the test would be useful diagnostic information that Sonos support may be able to make use of.
Cheers Pete
01-11-2016 05:30 PM
@PeteB01 thanks - I might try that, though I spoke to Vf support this afternoon who suggested router hard reset, so I'll probably try that first.