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11-01-2023 05:25 PM
Posting on behalf of my Father who is Elderly.....oh and who now has no internet connection with which to post with anyway!.
Openreach appeared as scheduled to install their new FTTP service today, and the Engineer fitted the ONT box and internal wiring, to the outside wall. However he couldn't complete the "last mile" connection to the pole, because he had to span it across a flat roof!. Apparently, he has to call back another Openreach Engineer, who has the training to work on a flat roof! he hasn't had that training!.
I mean, how much training and how many seminar's DO you have to attend to kneel on a flat roof to hammer a few cable clips in?, I never saw it appear on Mastermind, so I imagine its not something that you have to spend five years getting a PHD in.
Either way, the world has gone mad, the Flat Roof in question is about 6 foot high, so the only thing you are likely to hurt if you were stupid or incompetent enough to fall off its massive width, would be your pride.
However if there are certain instances in or around a property which are critical enough to cause your installation to be abandoned or postponed, then why not capture it at the time of ordering?. I.e a Little Tick box at the time of ordering which says "Do you have a flat roof" Yes / No - then this way Vodafone can ensure that Openreach send the right Engineer for the job right from the start - clearly "Flat Roof Working" is a highly skilled profession which is too short of a supply, to be able to send out routinely!.
Either way, my Elderly father is now left with no means of contacting his carers (who have to come in to attend to him daily), as no internet also means no VOIP meaning his old landline number which they have no longer connects, and all because of some Jobsworth somewhere justifying their overpaid - overhyped deadwood position by coming up with stupid health and safety rules.
11-01-2023 05:40 PM - edited 11-01-2023 05:40 PM
I'm surprised the previous broadband service has been ceased before the new one is connected.
Was he with Vodafone previously or another ISP?
If swapping technologies it's always best to plan an overlap if possible.
11-01-2023 05:54 PM
Talking to a friend, retired BT, he said that there are problems with flat roofs that are not always obvious and can result in damage to the property and/or injury to the engineer.
11-01-2023 06:04 PM - edited 11-01-2023 06:10 PM
@Jayach wrote:I'm surprised the previous broadband service has been ceased before the new one is connected.
Was he with Vodafone previously or another ISP?
If swapping technologies it's always best to plan an overlap if possible.
Yes, perhaps expecting the joint collaboration of Vodafone and Openreach to have perfected the roll out, of the hot rock'in technology which is apparently going to replace the old fashioned phone lines eventually was a step too far and badly misplaced in terms of trust.
My Fathers contract for his existing FTTC & Line was due for renewal today, so it was a happy coincidence at the time of sign up that the two would have normally moved over seamlessly, on the day that his original contract ended, he was also anxious that, in the current climate, the eyewatering renewal fees of his existing contract were avoided, even pro-rata, because yes, 80 year olds get stressed over outgoings.
Since OCD and Anxiety are part of his medical condition, I tend to just follow his wishes to keep the peace, and unfortunately that means ending the contract when he wanted, which may not be what you or I, would have done. If you get my drift.
Vodafone also offered at sign up, to cancel the existing phone and FTTC contract for him, and that gave him additional re-assurance that he wouldn't have to do that himself, or needlessly worry that he was burdening me with it.
No, the current FTTC is not with Vodafone, so no chance of a goodwill extension there. Assuming that was the reason for asking.
Talking to a friend, retired BT, he said that there are problems with flat roofs that are not always obvious and can result in damage to the property and/or injury to the engineer.
Fair comment. But probably all of the more reason for making the question part of the sign up procedure. All of the houses on his street have the flat roof in the same position, many houses on my own street are built to the same design, so I suspect its not a unique requirement nationally.
11-01-2023 06:24 PM
If you left it to Vodafone to cancel the previous broadband/phone service, has it definitely ceased? It's not like Vodafone to get something right.
Normally when coming to the end of a broadband contract,. it normally rolls over to monthly payments.
Out of interest, who was he with?
15-01-2023 09:26 PM
I would try the emergency welfare way
26-01-2023 09:01 PM
It's likely to be health and safety related, if they aren't trained and something goes wrong and there's property damage or injury to either the engineer or your father, their insurers aren't likely to pay out on the basis that he wasn't equupped to do the work.
I know, it sounds ridiculous but I'll bet that's what it is, they'll send the first available engineer to do it and Vodafone will have little or no say in who that is as they are a customer of Openreach in the same way you are a customer of Vodafone