Ping/Latency way higher Gigafast 900

[htyaH]

I used to get 5ms ping to London (from Coventry), now I am being auto connected to Edinburugh and I get 15 ping to there, when I try to speedtest to London or even right next to me in Leicester I am getting pings above 22...I called in and they just said "they added new servers and there's nothing much we can do"...

any help?

[Ripshod]

Yeah, 63.130.172.37 is old cable and wireless infrastructure that vodafone never bothered updating. Figures.

I noticed @Anonymous 's traceroute too. It seems to be routed solely over the vodafone network, never reaches the backbone. Maybe that's just the shortest route. 

[Cynric]

I wonder if the traceroute is being optimised (something like inap) within VF's zone, so although it appears in the USA it "knows" that the next hop is in the UK so it doesn't actually cross the pond?

[Ripshod]

It's this failure of ISPs to update databases such as RIPE that causes so many routing errors through Geolocation. Vodafone know where their IPs geolocate they just don't seem to want anyone else to know, even the authorities. Again it raises the question "Do they know what they're doing? "

It's already known a long-termer with all their practical knowledge in any industry is worth two fresh-off-the-campus graduates, yet they still rather give jobs to the lower paid instead of looking at their true value. Simply - false economy.

Job interview for first line support

• Can you see this text on the screen - answer "yes" 
• You got the job

Vodafone staffers please don't get upset. I'm sure you didn't spend years at college and university to spend your life at a screen in a huge shared office trying to sort this whole mess out. 

[Cynric]

.@Ripshod You said, "I'm sure you didn't spend years at college and university ..." and you touch on an important point. When I left school mumble-mumble years ago the more technically minded who either could not or chose not to go to uni went to a technical college or polytechnic and followed paths such as B-TEC. Employers would grab these people because they had practical skills and often existing work experience as these courses were often part-time. You could still end-up with a G.Dip or BSc/MA at the end of the day. However, now employers want degree enducated people in juniors roles doing exactly what someone with a HNC/HND would have done. The jobs have not changed that drastically over the years that they merit a degree. It was only senior or specialists who added a degree to their CV as they progressed. 

OK rant over 😁

[purrbox]

It didn't last. I'm back on Edinburgh with a 30ms ping. My connection is laggy. Streaming media autodetects down to 240p with constant buffering and disconnections. Browsing feeling like you are on a 56K modem. WiFi calling is also choppy / unusable.

Download speed 900mb/s so can't complain complain to support as like before they just say nothing is wrong. Why have this stupid rule of routing people through Edinburgh when they don't even live in the North, let alone Scotland.

Is there any way to force it to connect to a specific gateway?

Tracing route to bbc.map.fastly.net [151.101.0.81]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms 9 ms <1 ms RT-AX92U-6090 [192.168.50.1]
2 33 ms 33 ms 33 ms 90.247.128.1
3 31 ms 31 ms 35 ms 63.130.172.35
4 36 ms 35 ms 37 ms 90.255.251.117
5 30 ms 30 ms 31 ms 151.101.0.81

[purrbox]

And surpise suprise my round trip pings have gone from 15ms to 200ms so again I can no longer work from home. 

[Anonymous]

@purrbox  Just a couple of things.

1. Bearing in mind that you say you are getting 900Mb, what is the IT activity you need to do for work that latency >30ms stops you doing?

2.  This is the first line of your tracert  "1 <1 ms 9 ms <1 ms RT-AX92U-6090 [192.168.50.1]"  I'm surprised to see 9ms in there. Everything to your router should be <1ms.  Are you using WiFi for these network latency tests or Ethernet? 

 I get this on Ethernet  - 
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms GT-AX11000-CBB0 [192.168.1.1]
2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 84.65.192.1 (Birmingham) 
3 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms 63.130.172.37
4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 90.255.251.119
5 5 ms 6 ms 6 ms 151.101.192.81

When I try WiFi, out on the lawn, towards  the edge of my IMesh range, I get this.

1     4 ms     1 ms     2 ms  GT-AX11000-CBB0 [192.168.1.1]

  2    15 ms     4 ms     8 ms  84.65.192.1

  3    40 ms    21 ms    44 ms  63.130.172.37

  4    78 ms    92 ms    71 ms  90.255.251.119

  5    14 ms    12 ms    10 ms  151.101.64.81

Clearly, using WiFi when measuring latency on Vodafone's network spine threw up higher latency  for me.  Higher latency in my premises network is correlating with higher latency when using the national networks. 

[purrbox]

@Anonymous 

I work as a derivatives trader. The market making element of my trading strategy requires pings under 20ms. We are in the so called fibre age now, so I don't think I'm unreasonable to ask for 20ms pings. 

I think the 9ms jump to the router was just an anomaly, but thanks for pointing it out. I'll keep an eye on it.

I'm on Ethernet. We do have a 3 node WiFi mesh but it's only used by phones, tablets etc. Everything else is wired in via Ethernet sockets. This computer is intentionally wired directly into the router with no switch or anything else before it. It's literally an Ethernet cable from the router to the PC.

Here's another trace route from the other day when I was on the Swindon BNG. As you can see, when it's routed right, I get amazing pings.

Tracing route to bbc.map.fastly.net [151.101.0.81]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms RT-AX92U-6090 [192.168.50.1]
2 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 90.247.192.1
3 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms 63.130.172.27
4 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 90.255.251.103
5 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 151.101.0.81

[Anonymous]

@purrbox  I'd be interested in seeing a few more tests whilst you are connected by Ethernet. If the high latency is repeated on your premises network that could be the main part of your reported problem. Be thinking of dodgy switches, connections or cable.

[Cynric]

.@purrbox 

There is a useful web-based tool at https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat which may throw some light on where any delay is being created.