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Support for eSIM in the iPhone Xs?

4: Newbie

Well that’s interesting and it may not just be the network that governs esim access. 

 

Apple has had just released 12.1.1. I have been running the beta since it was released however on final release today on the support not it says dual sim with esim support for additional carriers. So maybe Apple have to role out updates as well to bring new carriers in to the fold. 

 

or this could be just the fixes they have had to make to bring the US carriers onboard

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10: Established

Probably they only enabled the carriers marked as "* Coming later this year" in this link : https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209096

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4: Newbie

@catean wrote:

Probably they only enabled the carriers marked as "* Coming later this year" in this link : https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209096


That’s my thought. I know there are issues in the US with 2G on Verizon and various issues with T Mobile. This probably fixes that. 

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2: Seeker

When the best information on the eSim feature that was a major persuasive feature in me buying an xs is “in the future” and it’s a world player (Vodafone) saying it, I begin to doubt my loyalty to this brand. 

Please explain: 

1. The reason for no implementation and 

2. A date for availability 

thank you. 

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4: Newbie

@RobCo wrote:

When the best information on the eSim feature that was a major persuasive feature in me buying an xs is “in the future” and it’s a world player (Vodafone) saying it, I begin to doubt my loyalty to this brand. 

Please explain: 

1. The reason for no implementation and 

2. A date for availability 

thank you. 


Probably 1 because it’s not ready yet and Apple may have only chosen to work with EE initially like with the watch and 2 they probably don’t have one yet. 

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2: Seeker

I am a newbie here.  I’m fed up with carrying two mobiles. Is there no end in sight for me and all iOS users who have tried the android system (deceptively simple) but who prefer iOS. 

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12: Established

If you need it now, move to EE. 

I doubt we'll see it from Vodafone before next years iPhone release.

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4: Newbie

I agree - it's infuriating. I changed from Vodafone to EE to use the cellular watch and back again when Vodafone supported it on the release of the series 4. Now it looks like I need to switch to EE again to get dual sim capability on the phone!

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1: Seeker

Hi

 

i spoke to Vodafone in November and they told me it would be available at the end of November

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10: Established

Can you speak with them again ? Every time I chat with one of them online they tell me to go in stores and if I have a postpaid plan then they will activate one for me. I am abroad and can't do that until next year.

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2: Seeker

Reality is that nobody is Vodafone has a clue what they’re doing or what they’re on about.  Sooner I can ditch them the better!!! 

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4: Newbie

Reality is this HAS NOT launched on Vodafone and no date has been given by the network except to watch the Coming Soon.  O2 and 3 have both said "sometime in 2019" I would say its the same with Vodafone.

 

The next round of carriers may not be added until iOS 12.2 when they continue to iron out all the issues being encountered so far.  I think Apple are going to have to make it compataible with iMessage on both line and choosing to be able to make a call for the same contact from either line by choice.

 

 I jumped from BT Mobile to Vodafone on the off chance they would be next to get it but nothing was ever confirmed by anyone with any real knowledge.  I am pretty sure they will make a big announcement when it is available.  At the moment there are far too many restrictions and bugs to make me want to use it.  I do want it though as I want to put my work SIM in my phone but with the issues stay away (I am an iOS beta tester so always on the beta train but the eSIM beta train is one too much which I feel it is at the moment)  Wait till Apple and the Beta networks get it right.

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2: Seeker

I realise this might be a longshot, but it would really help clear things up if someone from the Vodafone tech team would post something on this forum or on the coming soon page. 

 

I'm sure a lot of Vodafone customers would like some further information, for example, has Vodafone begun testing eSIM's on its network? If so, how far along the technical process has it reached? Just to give an analogy, when Apple releases its new iOS software at the developer conference, it is usually a Beta, and then over the coming months new Beta versions come out so people have some idea how far along the software development has reached. Granted Apple usually has a soft deadline when the new iPhones launch in September, but this doesn't have to be the case with eSIM's and Vodafone at least folks, like myself, will be happy to see the progress Vodafone is making towards eSIM launch. 

 

Again I realise this is probably a longshot, but thought I'd put it out there as you never know who might be reading this!  

 

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10: Established

eSIM tehnology is already implemented on the Vodafone network from the moment the Apple Watch with cellular has been introduced. I don't understand what stopped them from enabling the eSIM for other Apple devices too in UK, as they already did in Spain and Germany.

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4: Newbie

@catean wrote:

eSIM tehnology is already implemented on the Vodafone network from the moment the Apple Watch with cellular has been introduced. I don't understand what stopped them from enabling the eSIM for other Apple devices too in UK, as they already did in Spain and Germany.


Do we know it’s identical technology. One is the sim and one shares the Sim. Esim is esim but implementations are different from each other. Apple Watch you give an EID and tie to your current number. Replacement esim requires server details, authentication and a change of how to register. 

 

Only Germany has it. Spain is still coming soon. 

 

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10: Established

Yes, eSIM in the new iPhone's is identical with the eSIM in the iPad Pro's and Apple Watches. The technology that made the watch to share the same number as the iPhone's is not due to the eSIM in the apple watch, is actually a job that si done in the background by some servers and software at carrier level and is named Number Share/Number Sync or Smart number, depending on where you look. What actually happens in the background, is that you are assigned another phone number from the carrier for the wearable, but in the background the network is instructed to forward your iPhones number to the wearable (a little bit more than just plain forwarding). That is why the Apple Watch can't roam. You could actually programme the eSIM in the Apple Watch to have is own number (if you would be a techy hired by the carriers), in that way you could make it roam.

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4: Newbie

More carriers added. No more for the UK. 

 

SPAIN Voda and 2 other now added

 

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT209096

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2: Seeker

Given that Vodafone is a British company, it really is disheartening to see that its subsidiaries in Spain and Germany have already implemented eSIM's but here in the country of its headquarters we lag so far behind! We don't even have any information on the process and timeline of eSIM rollout let alone full implementation! 

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17: Community Champion

Each network is an individual entity and there is no connection between them other than the overall brand name. Also, the UK market is one of the company's least profitable so I'm not surprised that overseas markets have reacted more positively.

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4: Newbie

@jeffkinn wrote:

Each network is an individual entity and there is no connection between them other than the overall brand name. Also, the UK market is one of the company's least profitable so I'm not surprised that overseas markets have reacted more positively.


Additionally to this Voda in other companies are normally the result of a network takeover. I think in Spain it was Airtel. The technology they are using maybe ahead of what UK are using thus it is live. 

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