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Lights: power - flashing, internet - off, service - solid orange, use - off)

Retired-Lee
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  • Power: Flashing
  • Internet: Off
  • In Service: Solid Orange
  • In Use: Off

 

This light sequence indicates that the Sure Signal isn’t active and has failed to connect with our network.

 

Troubleshooting steps:

 

Wait 24 hours.
It can sometimes take up to 24 hours for the Sure Signal to fully register with the server. Before attempting any of the steps below, please wait 24 hours.

 

Check for planned maintenance.

Planned maintenance can cause periods of downtime, so check the forum for any planned maintenance. If there is, this will be announced at the top of the Sure Signal forum.

 

Check that your Sure Signal has registered successfully.
Before your Sure Signal can connect to our network, you need to register it with us.

 

You’ll receive a text or email to let you know when the registration is complete and your Sure Signal won’t work until you’ve received this message.

 

To check your Sure Signal is registered, login to My Account and click on the 'My Sure Signal' tab. Your Sure Signal details should be listed, along with the status 'Registered'.

If you’ve not yet registered your Sure Signal, you can do this directly from the My Sure Signal page in My Account.

 

If you’re a Business customer, please register at our Business Sure Signal page.

 

Check the physical connection between your Sure Signal and the router/modem.

In order to work, the Sure Signal needs to be connected to a spare Ethernet port on your router or modem, or a Hub/Switch that is connected to an internet gateway.

 

In some cases, it’s possible for an Ethernet cable to be faulty, in which case it may not allow your router and Sure Signal to talk to each other.

 

To verify that the Ethernet cable works, check the lights at the back of your Sure Signal where the cable is plugged in.

 

There should be a link light on permanently which indicates that an electrical circuit has been established through the cable.

 

There should also be a light which flashes whenever data is being passed through the cable. If either the data light or the link light do not come on, this could indicate a problem with the cable itself. Please try a spare cable, or plug the cable into a different port on your router/modem.

 

Check that you’ve got an active internet connection.
Make sure you can connect to the internet on another device, such as your PC or phone. If you can’t connect, this indicates a problem with your router or your Internet Service Provider (ISP).

 

We recommend rebooting the router to see if this then allows you to connect to the internet.

 

Reboot your router/modem.

  1. Turn off your router or modem at the wall for 10 seconds and then turn it back on
  2. Wait for the lights on your modem/router to indicate that an internet connection has been established
  3. Press the reset button on the Sure Signal

 

Check that your Sure Signal has been assigned an internal IP address by your router.

The Sure Signal must be assigned an internal IP address by your router. If your router supports DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol), this must be enabled as doing so will enable the router to assign an IP address to your Sure Signal automatically.


For more instructions on how to do this, please check your router manual or contact your ISP or router manufacturer.

 

If your router or network configuration doesn’t allow DHCP, you’ll need to assign a static IP address to your Sure Signal's MAC Address by using your router's configuration panel. Please contact your ISP or router manufacturer for instructions on how to do this. The MAC address can be found on the sticker at the back of the Sure Signal.

 

Manually configure your router to allow port-forwarding.
In most cases, routers support a system called Universal Plug-n-Play (UPnP), which sets up port-forwarding for you automatically. If you’ve got a complicated network setup, or a complex router, you may need to enter these settings manually.

Please see the following for a list of IP addresses and port numbers that need to be forwarded to your Sure Signal's internal IP address. For instructions on how to do this, we recommend you contact your ISP or Router Manufacturer, or refer to the default guide for your particular make and model, over at http://portforward.com.

 

Destination IP Addresses:

  • 212.183.133.177
  • 212.183.133.178
  • 212.183.133.179
  • 212.183.133.181
  • 212.183.133.182
  • 212.183.131.128/26


Ports and Protocols:

  • 8 – TCP/UDP                 (All routers)
  • 50 – TCP/UDP               (All routers)
  • 53 – TCP/UDP               (Virgin Super Hubs)
  • 67 – UDP                      (Virgin Super Hubs)                                                    
  • 68 – UDP                      (Virgin Super Hubs)                                        
  • 123 – UDP                    (All routers)     
  • 500 – UDP                    (All routers)     
  • 1723 – TCP/UDP           (BT Home Hubs)          
  • 4500 – UDP                   (All routers)     
  • 33434 – 33445 – UDP    (Virgin Super Hubs)

 

Please note that in the above list of IP addresses, the notation "212.183.131.128/26" means the complete range of IP addresses between 212.183.131.128 and 212.183.131.191.

Your router also needs to assign the Sure Signal with a DNS (Domain Name Server) address via DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol).

 

Check your MTU settings.

Log into your router admin page and find the location of the MTU field. This varies depending on the make and model so you’ll need to look for it.

 

Change the value of the MTU size to 1500.

 

Log out of the router, this will usually result in a reboot.

 

Perform a reset of the Sure Signal:

  1. Locate the button on the base of the box next to the Ethernet ports
  2. Press and hold the button for approximately 30 seconds
  3. Once the lights come back on, release the button

 

Post your router/ISP details and Sure Signal serial number.

If you’ve done all of the above, or you’re struggling with configuring your router, please post your router's make and model number below. Please also include your Sure Signal serial number and the name of your ISP.

 

We find that other users of the same router will usually be able to share tips with you, to get things working.

 

We’ll also attempt to help with this, but due to the number of different manufacturers and models, it is not always possible. We don’t officially support any form of router configuration, so we’ll always recommend contacting your router manufacturer or ISP for assistance first.

 

Thanks, 

 

Jenny

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steve745
2: Seeker
2: Seeker

I am having the same problem with my SS3 on a BT Hub v3 it has been working for approximatly 2 years and has suddenly stopped. I spoke the the help team and got not a lot of help as he said my upload speed needs to be 1.5 Mbps or above and as I live in a rural area it has never been this. Here are my test results can you give me some help

 

Your IP Address is 213.1.36.136

 

speed test results
Download 4.02 Mbps
Upload 0.36 Mbps


ping test results
Ping 38ms
Jitter 1ms


Sure Signal serial number
40123643716

 

results of a traceroute

tracert 212.183.133.177

Tracing route to 212.183.133.177 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 1 ms 2 ms 3 ms BThomehub.home [192.168.1.254]
2 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms 217.32.99.58
3 19 ms 32 ms 38 ms 213.123.109.161
4 26 ms 27 ms 26 ms 213.1.69.42
5 40 ms 26 ms 26 ms 213.120.180.171
6 29 ms 27 ms 27 ms 217.41.169.109
7 27 ms 25 ms 25 ms acc2-xe-0-1-3.sf.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.251.21
1]
8 95 ms 197 ms 334 ms core1-te-0-4-0-17.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.
251.57]
9 273 ms 98 ms 43 ms peer1-xe3-2-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.2
54.205]
10 40 ms 38 ms 67 ms lndgw2.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.124]
11 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms 85.205.0.93
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
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Trace complete.

 

Many Thanks

 

Steve

Jenny
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

Hi @steve745

 

Looking at your traceroute, some of those hops/steps have very high figures (197ms, 334ms, 273ms), which point to a latency issue (where there’s a delay in the data being sent and received).

 

I recommend you contact your ISP to discuss this further as it could be due to poor line quality.

 

Thanks,

 

Jenny

Hi I have talked to BT thet did some checks and changed configuration and it still does not work but here is mt new trace route

 

tracert 212.183.133.177

Tracing route to 212.183.133.177 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms BThomehub.home [192.168.1.254]
2 24 ms 22 ms 23 ms 217.32.99.58
3 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms 213.123.109.161
4 27 ms 26 ms 27 ms 213.1.69.42
5 29 ms 28 ms 27 ms 213.120.180.171
6 29 ms 26 ms 29 ms 217.41.169.109
7 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms acc2-xe-0-1-3.sf.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.251.21
1]
8 39 ms 38 ms 38 ms core1-te-0-4-0-17.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.
251.57]
9 30 ms 31 ms 30 ms peer1-xe3-2-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.2
54.205]
10 43 ms 40 ms 41 ms lndgw2.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.124]
11 37 ms 37 ms 38 ms 85.205.0.93
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
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20 * * * Request timed out.
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22 * * * Request timed out.
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25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

 

Any idea what is going on? I talked to your helpline but just got the normal it is your broadband speed talk. Can you even tell me if the device is talking to your servers at all?

 

Sure Signal serial number
40123643716

 

Thanks

 

Steven

Anonymous
Not applicable

Hello please can you help me. My VSS was working fine until a couple of weeks ago when all of a sudden I got the light combination mentioned in this thread. flashing power light and solid service light and no other lights on. I went into my account and noticeed that the unit was not registered or even shown on my account so I registered it last week. Since then I have reset the unit a number of times and the router.

If i unplug and plug the unit in it has a steady power light and no others for about a minute then the orange service light comes on and the power light flashes.

I have been though all the trouble shooting opening up ports on my router, checked the lights on the back of the VSS which are flashing, replaced the cable to see if that will make a difference. I've checked to make sure it is visible on the network and taken it to work and plugged it in there with the same results.

I'm suspecting the worst as when I first bought a VSS the first two I had were broken from new and the only way to get them working was to replace the unit in the shop so I had 3 in the space of two weeks and now I think this one has given up the ghost. I have done a trace route to you with the following results.

Last login: Thu Jun 11 22:19:05 on ttys000

Pauls-Mac-mini:~ Paul$ traceroute 212.183.133.177

traceroute to 212.183.133.177 (212.183.133.177), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets

1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.507 ms  0.291 ms  0.265 ms

2  217.47.72.250 (217.47.72.250)  28.647 ms  28.187 ms  28.509 ms

3  217.47.206.161 (217.47.206.161)  28.635 ms  28.913 ms  26.969 ms

4  213.1.69.122 (213.1.69.122)  35.016 ms  35.004 ms  35.170 ms

5  217.41.169.15 (217.41.169.15)  38.506 ms  37.812 ms  37.870 ms

6  213.120.179.83 (213.120.179.83)  35.027 ms  36.770 ms  35.849 ms

7  acc2-xe-5-1-2.sf.21cn-ipp.bt.net (109.159.251.243)  37.841 ms

    acc2-xe-5-1-3.sf.21cn-ipp.bt.net (109.159.251.245)  32.795 ms

    acc2-xe-1-2-0.sf.21cn-ipp.bt.net (109.159.251.195)  35.846 ms

8  core2-te0-2-4-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.251.143)  45.528 ms

    core1-te-0-3-0-3.ilford.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.251.163)  47.068 ms

    core2-te0-12-0-6.ilford.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.251.7)  44.188 ms

9  core2-pos9-2.bletchley.ukcore.bt.net (194.72.31.157)  42.574 ms

    host213-121-193-156.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.193.156)  45.961 ms

    peer1-xe11-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.254.124)  38.231 ms

10  lndgw2.arcor-ip.net (195.66.224.124)  44.071 ms  43.034 ms  42.368 ms

11  85.205.0.86 (85.205.0.86)  43.209 ms  41.769 ms  44.674 ms

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Please let me know what i should do next. Thank you. Paul

Gemma
Community Manager
Community Manager

@Anonymous

 

Please test a different Ethernet cable.

 

If it’s still not working, let us know your Sure Signal serial number and your external IP address from here.

 

It’s also worth testing it at a different location, to rule out a faulty Sure Signal.

Anonymous
Not applicable

@gemma

Hi Gemma,

 

Thanks for your reply I have already tried a different cable and location but have the same results. I have changed the cable again now and reset but I still get the same thing.

My VSS serial number is : 40124148657

IP address: 86.154.59.157

Regards,

Paul

Gemma
Community Manager
Community Manager

@CJ_813 – Your Sure Signal still hasn’t made contact with the network since the 26th May.

 

As you’ve already checked your ports and your speed test etc are all showing ok, please test it at a different location.

 

This will rule out a faulty Sure Signal.

 

If it works ok when using a different internet connection, please see our  information on BT Home Hub.

 

@Anonymous – With it not working at a different location it sounds likes it’s faulty.

 

If it was using the same internet provider, please test it with a different one.

 

If you’ve had it for less than 12 months, please take it to one of our Vodafone stores, so they can send it for repair.

cj_813
2: Seeker
2: Seeker
Hello Guys,

I've changed Ethernet cable and makes no difference.

Please tell me what has changed and or what else can I do to get this working. It's been ages now and is causing a real problem.

Anonymous
Not applicable
Basically I have come to the conclusion that these units are not as reliable as the last v2 and at twice the price it's a bit of a disappointment. After having two that didn't work to begin with I managed to get one that did work but unsurprisingly it seems the fault has just taken time to appear with this one. Just look at the number of posts regarding this product and issues of various types. I would suggest it almost warrants an equity into the reliability and production of this product. Thank you for all your help I'll take my third Vss back to the shop and see how much it costs to repair now it is out of warranty or just find another network that does provide data coverage in my area.

All my VSS problems solved simply. Changing networks, VSS units on EBay. This seems to be the only solution that actually works.