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Sure Signal not transmitting a 3G signal

Retired-George
Moderator (Retired)
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This issue presents the following symptoms:

 

For version 1 Sure Signal (the one with four lights on the front):

  • Lights one and two are solid which indicates the Sure Signal is connected, but isn't giving a 3G signal.
  • Light four doesn’t light up or lights occasionally and then goes out at certain times of day.

 

For version 2 Sure Signal (the one with 3 lights on the front): 

  • The power and system lights are both solid, indicating that the Sure Signal is giving a 3G signal.
  • Your registered phones don’t pick up a 3G signal.

 

For version 3 Sure Signal (the plug in version):

  • Power, internet and service lights are solid and the ‘in use’ light is either solid or flashing
  • Your registered phones don’t pick up a 3G signal

 

Troubleshooting steps:

Check that your broadband connection meets our minimum requirements.
Please run the broadband speed checker.


If your connection fails any part of the test, this indicates an issue with your Internet Service Provider (ISP) and you’ll need to contact them to discuss this.

 

Your connection speed will vary throughout the day, so we recommend running it at various times to get an accurate reading.

 

To ensure the Sure Signal broadcasts at the correct frequency, it sends and receives small amounts of data to a Network Time Protocol Server hosted by ourselves. If these packets of data take longer than 240ms to make a round-trip, the accuracy can no longer be ensured and so the Sure Signal will automatically stop broadcasting and light four will go out.

 

Check for planned maintenance.

Planned maintenance can cause periods of downtime, so check the forum for any planned maintenance. If there is, this will be announced at the top of the Sure Signal forum.

 

Reset your Sure Signal:

 

  1. Hold in the reset button until all lights go solid
  2. Pull the power lead out with the reset button still pushed in
  3. Continue to hold down the reset button and reconnect the power lead
  4. Wait for all lights to come on and then release the reset button

 

The Sure Signal will be back online in around 1 hour.

 

Configure your Router Firewall.
The IP address and ports used for NTP (Network Time Protocol) synchronisation are listed below. You may need these to configure the correct firewall settings on your router.

 

This step isn’t usually necessary, but it may help if you’re using a complex network (such as a corporate or office LAN), or a complex router.

 

We recommend contacting your ISP or router manufacturer directly for detailed instructions on exactly how to change your router settings. Alternatively, select your router make and model over at http://portforward.com and follow the default guide there.

Destination IP addresses:

  • 212.183.133.181
  • 212.183.133.182
  • 212.183.131.128/26

 

  • Protocol = UDP
  • Port = 123


Please note that in the list of IP addresses above, the notation "212.183.131.128/26"means the entire range of IP addresses between 212.183.131.128 and 212.183.131.191

 

Perform a PathPing to our server.

In order to check if the Sure Signal's able to communicate with our NTP server, a PathPing can be performed as a test. In order to do this, you'll need to open the command prompt in Windows as follows:

  • For XP just click Start > Run and type cmd then hit enter
  • For Vista/Windows 7, press Start and type 'cmd' into the search bar
  • Right click the result and click ‘Run As Administrator’


Once you're in the command prompt, type in PathPing 212.183.133.181. This will perform a trace route to the NTP server and will show you the route it took to get there. One of the columns will display packet loss, if this occurs before hitting our server, you'll need to contact your ISP for further assistance.

 

If you've completed all the troubleshooting steps above and not identified the cause of the issue, your Sure Signal may be faulty. Please post in this thread and we can look into it further.

 

Thanks,

 

Jenny

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Hello

 

serial number 21224717989 version 1

 

the sure signal stopped working a few days ago after a lont internet outage (2 hours), presented with only light 1 flashing.

 

I have done a little troubleshooting and have now manged to get to light 1 and 2 solid.

 

how is it looking from your end?

 

 

Internet speed >5 Mbps ping normally <55ms.

 

pathping 

C:\WINDOWS\system32>pathping 212.183.133.181

Tracing route to 212.183.133.181 over a maximum of 30 hops

0 XPS-M133064BIT.int.hillblock.com [192.168.1.104]
1 WRT54GL [192.168.1.251]
2 192.168.1.250
3 losubs.subs.dsl5.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.83.10]
4 no-dns-yet-62-3-86-29.zen.co.uk [62.3.86.29]
5 ge-2-0-0-0.cr1.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.49]
6 ge-3-0-0-0.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.45]
7 ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]
8 85.205.116.14
9 * * *
Computing statistics for 200 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 XPS-M133064BIT.int.hillblock.com [192.168.1.104]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% WRT54GL [192.168.1.251]
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.1.250
1/ 100 = 1% |
3 44ms 2/ 100 = 2% 1/ 100 = 1% losubs.subs.dsl5.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.83.10]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 45ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% no-dns-yet-62-3-86-29.zen.co.uk [62.3.86.29]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 46ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% ge-2-0-0-0.cr1.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.49]
1/ 100 = 1% |
6 54ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% ge-3-0-0-0.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.45]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 54ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]
98/ 100 = 98% |
8 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% 85.205.116.14

Trace complete.

 

Can you see the sure signal from your end?

 

Thanks in advance

IAn

 

 

FIXED

 

Came back about an hour later and it is working OK

 

Don't you just hate it when that happens

 

Ian

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Hi @cineriv         

 

Please try a different Ethernet cable and to ensure that all the following ports are open as follows:

 

Ports to be opened for forwarding

  • 8 (TCP & UDP)
  • 50 (TCP & UDP)
  • 53  (TCP & UDP)
  • 67 (UDP)
  • 68 (UDP) 
  • 123 (UDP)
  • 500 (UDP)
  • 1723 (TCP & UDP)
  • 4500 (UDP)
  • 33434 - 33445 (UDP)

 

IP addresses to be allowed on the router & firewall

  • 183.133.177-179
  • 183.133.181-182
  • 183.131.128-191

 

Please also check in your router settings that the private VPN is ticked.

 

Thanks,

 

Sarah

The router have been using for the past 4 years with the Sure Signal is a Netgear DGN2200 and has never required any port forwarding in the past for any application, it is a very much a plug and play router.

However, I have added the required ports to the DGN2200 and to my standby router, D-link DSL-2680 and with an new ethernet cable, there has been no change of symptoms with either router,  just continuous re-cycling.

A final check was to try the SS on my neighbours network for a day or so, this also failed to change anything.

Before I waste any more time and money by replacing my SS, would you please check your end and re-sync as necessary.

My current IP address is 92.3.73.45 and the current results from the SS are the same as my first post.

 

Thanks.

Mike.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Retired-Ian_
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

Hi Mike,

 

We normally ask that you try the Sure Signal at a completely different address and ISP.

 

The IP address is fine though.

 

The Sure Signal still hasn't contacted our servers since 27 December and hasn't picked up that you tried it elsewhere.

 

If you can, try it at a different address.

 

Thanks,

 

Ian

 

 

 

 

cineriv
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

Hi Ian.

Quote Ian: If you can, try it at a different address.

 

How much different do you want?

As I said in my last post, a different address (neighbour) has been tried, although the same post code, but a different isp (Plusnet) and router.. this was tried during the period 26-28 December during which time there was no change in the performance of the Sure Signal.

 

Mike.

 

Hi @cineriv 

 

We’ve sent a software update as we can see it’s using the previous version.

 

Please leave the Sure Signal for 24 hours whilst this updates.

 

If the light sequences go back to normal after this time, please hard reset the phones connected to this.

 

Thanks,

 

Sarah

Quote Sarah:  ''Please leave the Sure Signal for 24 hours whilst this updates.''

 

26 hours later and still no change!

                                                     ---------------------------------

                                                 

Thursday 1st January 2015   2215hrs.

Still no change except a change of public IP address due to a momentary power loss earlier today.

New public IP address .... 92.4.115.223

cineriv
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

New Public IP Address  92.3.53.172

 

 

                          BUMP!

Anonymous
Not applicable

My SS1 has been working fine for years, just occasional reset required. However today nothing. After several resets it is now going through a cycle where 2 lights go solid and 4th flashes then all go out and it starts all over again.

Nothing has changed. I have followed troubleshooting guide, rebooted router, checked cables etc. All other internet services working OK. Broadband Speed is 4809/372

 

SS1 serial number is 21224332144 

Don't really understand pathping but here's the result

 

Tracing route to 212.183.133.181 over a maximum of 30 hops

0 Zoo.lan [192.168.1.65]
1 dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 lo0-central10.pcl-ag08.plus.net [195.166.128.189]
3 link-b-central10.pcl-gw02.plus.net [212.159.2.190]
4 xe-9-1-0.pcl-cr02.plus.net [212.159.0.222]
5 ae2.pcl-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.6]
6 ae1.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.0]
7 ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]
8 85.205.0.93
9 * * *
Computing statistics for 200 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 Zoo.lan [192.168.1.65]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 30ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% lo0-central10.pcl-ag08.plus.net [1
95.166.128.189]
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% link-b-central10.pcl-gw02.plus.net
[212.159.2.190]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% xe-9-1-0.pcl-cr02.plus.net [212.15
9.0.222]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 28ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae2.pcl-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129
.6]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae1.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129
.0]
100/ 100 =100% |
7 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.20
9]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% 85.205.0.93

Trace complete.

 

 

What next please?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cineriv
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

Hi jaqual,

For some reason this thread doesn't seem to getting much attention as you can see by my posts #455 - 462

I'm still waiting for a reply since 1st. January .... even a bump doesn't work!

 

But the reason for me replying to you is that I think your problem is exactly the same as mine was.

That problem is a failing power supply and is becoming a very common problem with the Mk.1 SS.

Compare your symptoms with mine (post #455) and see what you think. I spent almost a week trying to decide what the problem was, as the power light appeared quite normal.

 

Further info on the problem ........

http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Vodafone-Sure-Signal/SureSignal-1-flashing-but-not-working-possible-f...

 

Unfortunately the only easy way is diagnose this problem is to replace the power supply which are readily available on Amazon or Ebay for around £10 or cheaper.

 

Regards .

Mike.

Anonymous
Not applicable

Thank Mike (cineriv) it's worth a try.

 

Alan