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06-10-2010 04:31 PM - last edited on 14-07-2014 04:50 PM by Jenny
This issue presents the following symptoms:
For version 1 Sure Signal (the one with four lights on the front):
For version 2 Sure Signal (the one with 3 lights on the front):
For version 3 Sure Signal (the plug in version):
Troubleshooting steps:
Check that your broadband connection meets our minimum requirements.
Please run the broadband speed checker.
If your connection fails any part of the test, this indicates an issue with your Internet Service Provider (ISP) and you’ll need to contact them to discuss this.
Your connection speed will vary throughout the day, so we recommend running it at various times to get an accurate reading.
To ensure the Sure Signal broadcasts at the correct frequency, it sends and receives small amounts of data to a Network Time Protocol Server hosted by ourselves. If these packets of data take longer than 240ms to make a round-trip, the accuracy can no longer be ensured and so the Sure Signal will automatically stop broadcasting and light four will go out.
Check for planned maintenance.
Planned maintenance can cause periods of downtime, so check the forum for any planned maintenance. If there is, this will be announced at the top of the Sure Signal forum.
Reset your Sure Signal:
The Sure Signal will be back online in around 1 hour.
Configure your Router Firewall.
The IP address and ports used for NTP (Network Time Protocol) synchronisation are listed below. You may need these to configure the correct firewall settings on your router.
This step isn’t usually necessary, but it may help if you’re using a complex network (such as a corporate or office LAN), or a complex router.
We recommend contacting your ISP or router manufacturer directly for detailed instructions on exactly how to change your router settings. Alternatively, select your router make and model over at http://portforward.com and follow the default guide there.
Destination IP addresses:
Please note that in the list of IP addresses above, the notation "212.183.131.128/26"means the entire range of IP addresses between 212.183.131.128 and 212.183.131.191
Perform a PathPing to our server.
In order to check if the Sure Signal's able to communicate with our NTP server, a PathPing can be performed as a test. In order to do this, you'll need to open the command prompt in Windows as follows:
Once you're in the command prompt, type in PathPing 212.183.133.181. This will perform a trace route to the NTP server and will show you the route it took to get there. One of the columns will display packet loss, if this occurs before hitting our server, you'll need to contact your ISP for further assistance.
If you've completed all the troubleshooting steps above and not identified the cause of the issue, your Sure Signal may be faulty. Please post in this thread and we can look into it further.
Thanks,
Jenny
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15-01-2014 03:38 PM - edited 15-01-2014 05:15 PM
Hello
serial number 21224717989 version 1
the sure signal stopped working a few days ago after a lont internet outage (2 hours), presented with only light 1 flashing.
I have done a little troubleshooting and have now manged to get to light 1 and 2 solid.
how is it looking from your end?
Internet speed >5 Mbps ping normally <55ms.
pathping
C:\WINDOWS\system32>pathping 212.183.133.181
Tracing route to 212.183.133.181 over a maximum of 30 hops
0 XPS-M133064BIT.int.hillblock.com [192.168.1.104]1 WRT54GL [192.168.1.251]2 192.168.1.2503 losubs.subs.dsl5.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.83.10]4 no-dns-yet-62-3-86-29.zen.co.uk [62.3.86.29]5 ge-2-0-0-0.cr1.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.49]6 ge-3-0-0-0.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.45]7 ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]8 85.205.116.149 * * *Computing statistics for 200 seconds...Source to Here This Node/LinkHop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address0 XPS-M133064BIT.int.hillblock.com [192.168.1.104]0/ 100 = 0% |1 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% WRT54GL [192.168.1.251]0/ 100 = 0% |2 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.1.2501/ 100 = 1% |3 44ms 2/ 100 = 2% 1/ 100 = 1% losubs.subs.dsl5.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.83.10]0/ 100 = 0% |4 45ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% no-dns-yet-62-3-86-29.zen.co.uk [62.3.86.29]0/ 100 = 0% |5 46ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% ge-2-0-0-0.cr1.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.49]1/ 100 = 1% |6 54ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% ge-3-0-0-0.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.45]0/ 100 = 0% |7 54ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]98/ 100 = 98% |8 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% 85.205.116.14
Trace complete.
Can you see the sure signal from your end?
Thanks in advance
IAn
FIXED
Came back about an hour later and it is working OK
Don't you just hate it when that happens
Ian
26-12-2014 09:21 AM
Hi @cineriv
Please try a different Ethernet cable and to ensure that all the following ports are open as follows:
Ports to be opened for forwarding
IP addresses to be allowed on the router & firewall
Please also check in your router settings that the private VPN is ticked.
Thanks,
Sarah
28-12-2014 03:03 PM
The router have been using for the past 4 years with the Sure Signal is a Netgear DGN2200 and has never required any port forwarding in the past for any application, it is a very much a plug and play router.
However, I have added the required ports to the DGN2200 and to my standby router, D-link DSL-2680 and with an new ethernet cable, there has been no change of symptoms with either router, just continuous re-cycling.
A final check was to try the SS on my neighbours network for a day or so, this also failed to change anything.
Before I waste any more time and money by replacing my SS, would you please check your end and re-sync as necessary.
My current IP address is 92.3.73.45 and the current results from the SS are the same as my first post.
Thanks.
Mike.
29-12-2014 02:56 PM
Hi Mike,
We normally ask that you try the Sure Signal at a completely different address and ISP.
The IP address is fine though.
The Sure Signal still hasn't contacted our servers since 27 December and hasn't picked up that you tried it elsewhere.
If you can, try it at a different address.
Thanks,
Ian
29-12-2014 03:58 PM - edited 30-12-2014 11:47 AM
Hi Ian.
Quote Ian: If you can, try it at a different address.
How much different do you want?
As I said in my last post, a different address (neighbour) has been tried, although the same post code, but a different isp (Plusnet) and router.. this was tried during the period 26-28 December during which time there was no change in the performance of the Sure Signal.
Mike.
30-12-2014 01:09 PM - edited 30-12-2014 01:10 PM
Hi @cineriv
We’ve sent a software update as we can see it’s using the previous version.
Please leave the Sure Signal for 24 hours whilst this updates.
If the light sequences go back to normal after this time, please hard reset the phones connected to this.
Thanks,
Sarah
31-12-2014 03:39 PM - edited 01-01-2015 10:25 PM
Quote Sarah: ''Please leave the Sure Signal for 24 hours whilst this updates.''
26 hours later and still no change!
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Thursday 1st January 2015 2215hrs.
Still no change except a change of public IP address due to a momentary power loss earlier today.
New public IP address .... 92.4.115.223
03-01-2015 11:25 AM - edited 03-01-2015 12:56 PM
New Public IP Address 92.3.53.172
BUMP!
15-01-2015 10:25 PM
My SS1 has been working fine for years, just occasional reset required. However today nothing. After several resets it is now going through a cycle where 2 lights go solid and 4th flashes then all go out and it starts all over again.
Nothing has changed. I have followed troubleshooting guide, rebooted router, checked cables etc. All other internet services working OK. Broadband Speed is 4809/372
SS1 serial number is 21224332144
Don't really understand pathping but here's the result
Tracing route to 212.183.133.181 over a maximum of 30 hops
0 Zoo.lan [192.168.1.65]
1 dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 lo0-central10.pcl-ag08.plus.net [195.166.128.189]
3 link-b-central10.pcl-gw02.plus.net [212.159.2.190]
4 xe-9-1-0.pcl-cr02.plus.net [212.159.0.222]
5 ae2.pcl-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.6]
6 ae1.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.0]
7 ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]
8 85.205.0.93
9 * * *
Computing statistics for 200 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 Zoo.lan [192.168.1.65]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 30ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% lo0-central10.pcl-ag08.plus.net [1
95.166.128.189]
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% link-b-central10.pcl-gw02.plus.net
[212.159.2.190]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% xe-9-1-0.pcl-cr02.plus.net [212.15
9.0.222]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 28ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae2.pcl-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129
.6]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae1.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129
.0]
100/ 100 =100% |
7 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.20
9]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% 85.205.0.93
Trace complete.
What next please?
15-01-2015 11:03 PM - edited 15-01-2015 11:12 PM
Hi jaqual,
For some reason this thread doesn't seem to getting much attention as you can see by my posts #455 - 462
I'm still waiting for a reply since 1st. January .... even a bump doesn't work!
But the reason for me replying to you is that I think your problem is exactly the same as mine was.
That problem is a failing power supply and is becoming a very common problem with the Mk.1 SS.
Compare your symptoms with mine (post #455) and see what you think. I spent almost a week trying to decide what the problem was, as the power light appeared quite normal.
Further info on the problem ........
Unfortunately the only easy way is diagnose this problem is to replace the power supply which are readily available on Amazon or Ebay for around £10 or cheaper.
Regards .
Mike.
15-01-2015 11:12 PM
Thank Mike (cineriv) it's worth a try.
Alan