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Sure Signal not transmitting a 3G signal

Retired-George
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

This issue presents the following symptoms:

 

For version 1 Sure Signal (the one with four lights on the front):

  • Lights one and two are solid which indicates the Sure Signal is connected, but isn't giving a 3G signal.
  • Light four doesn’t light up or lights occasionally and then goes out at certain times of day.

 

For version 2 Sure Signal (the one with 3 lights on the front): 

  • The power and system lights are both solid, indicating that the Sure Signal is giving a 3G signal.
  • Your registered phones don’t pick up a 3G signal.

 

For version 3 Sure Signal (the plug in version):

  • Power, internet and service lights are solid and the ‘in use’ light is either solid or flashing
  • Your registered phones don’t pick up a 3G signal

 

Troubleshooting steps:

Check that your broadband connection meets our minimum requirements.
Please run the broadband speed checker.


If your connection fails any part of the test, this indicates an issue with your Internet Service Provider (ISP) and you’ll need to contact them to discuss this.

 

Your connection speed will vary throughout the day, so we recommend running it at various times to get an accurate reading.

 

To ensure the Sure Signal broadcasts at the correct frequency, it sends and receives small amounts of data to a Network Time Protocol Server hosted by ourselves. If these packets of data take longer than 240ms to make a round-trip, the accuracy can no longer be ensured and so the Sure Signal will automatically stop broadcasting and light four will go out.

 

Check for planned maintenance.

Planned maintenance can cause periods of downtime, so check the forum for any planned maintenance. If there is, this will be announced at the top of the Sure Signal forum.

 

Reset your Sure Signal:

 

  1. Hold in the reset button until all lights go solid
  2. Pull the power lead out with the reset button still pushed in
  3. Continue to hold down the reset button and reconnect the power lead
  4. Wait for all lights to come on and then release the reset button

 

The Sure Signal will be back online in around 1 hour.

 

Configure your Router Firewall.
The IP address and ports used for NTP (Network Time Protocol) synchronisation are listed below. You may need these to configure the correct firewall settings on your router.

 

This step isn’t usually necessary, but it may help if you’re using a complex network (such as a corporate or office LAN), or a complex router.

 

We recommend contacting your ISP or router manufacturer directly for detailed instructions on exactly how to change your router settings. Alternatively, select your router make and model over at http://portforward.com and follow the default guide there.

Destination IP addresses:

  • 212.183.133.181
  • 212.183.133.182
  • 212.183.131.128/26

 

  • Protocol = UDP
  • Port = 123


Please note that in the list of IP addresses above, the notation "212.183.131.128/26"means the entire range of IP addresses between 212.183.131.128 and 212.183.131.191

 

Perform a PathPing to our server.

In order to check if the Sure Signal's able to communicate with our NTP server, a PathPing can be performed as a test. In order to do this, you'll need to open the command prompt in Windows as follows:

  • For XP just click Start > Run and type cmd then hit enter
  • For Vista/Windows 7, press Start and type 'cmd' into the search bar
  • Right click the result and click ‘Run As Administrator’


Once you're in the command prompt, type in PathPing 212.183.133.181. This will perform a trace route to the NTP server and will show you the route it took to get there. One of the columns will display packet loss, if this occurs before hitting our server, you'll need to contact your ISP for further assistance.

 

If you've completed all the troubleshooting steps above and not identified the cause of the issue, your Sure Signal may be faulty. Please post in this thread and we can look into it further.

 

Thanks,

 

Jenny

1 ACCEPTED SOLUTION

Hello

 

serial number 21224717989 version 1

 

the sure signal stopped working a few days ago after a lont internet outage (2 hours), presented with only light 1 flashing.

 

I have done a little troubleshooting and have now manged to get to light 1 and 2 solid.

 

how is it looking from your end?

 

 

Internet speed >5 Mbps ping normally <55ms.

 

pathping 

C:\WINDOWS\system32>pathping 212.183.133.181

Tracing route to 212.183.133.181 over a maximum of 30 hops

0 XPS-M133064BIT.int.hillblock.com [192.168.1.104]
1 WRT54GL [192.168.1.251]
2 192.168.1.250
3 losubs.subs.dsl5.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.83.10]
4 no-dns-yet-62-3-86-29.zen.co.uk [62.3.86.29]
5 ge-2-0-0-0.cr1.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.49]
6 ge-3-0-0-0.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.45]
7 ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]
8 85.205.116.14
9 * * *
Computing statistics for 200 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 XPS-M133064BIT.int.hillblock.com [192.168.1.104]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% WRT54GL [192.168.1.251]
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.1.250
1/ 100 = 1% |
3 44ms 2/ 100 = 2% 1/ 100 = 1% losubs.subs.dsl5.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.83.10]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 45ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% no-dns-yet-62-3-86-29.zen.co.uk [62.3.86.29]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 46ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% ge-2-0-0-0.cr1.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.49]
1/ 100 = 1% |
6 54ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% ge-3-0-0-0.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.45]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 54ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]
98/ 100 = 98% |
8 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% 85.205.116.14

Trace complete.

 

Can you see the sure signal from your end?

 

Thanks in advance

IAn

 

 

FIXED

 

Came back about an hour later and it is working OK

 

Don't you just hate it when that happens

 

Ian

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501 REPLIES 501

From what you say it could possibly be the power supply problem especially if nothing has changed in your network and they don't work elsewhere either. Just a bit strange that it is with both. Take one of the power supplies to Maplins or somewhere like that and get a replacement that is at least as powerful as the original (1500ma) and see if that cures it.

Retired-Sarah
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

 

Hi @x4bed 

Please take a look at our Sure Signal Troubleshooting thread. If this doesn’t resolve your query, please post your reply either below, or in the relevant thread, together with the details requested, including the following information.

Your speed test results from here.

Your ping test results from here.

Your external IP address from here.

The results of a traceroute.

 

Your Sure Signal serial number:

 


VSS Traceroute command

On a PC:

Click on Start and select Run

Type CMD into the Run box and press enter/click ok

A black box will appear.

In this box type tracert 212.183.133.177 press Enter

Paste the output of this command into your reply.

This will help us get the quickest possible resolution for you.

Thanks,

Sarah

Hi Sarah

thanks for you message.  We have given up with our sure signal and ordered some V3's instead.

 

regards

 

Ben

NetBod
2: Seeker
2: Seeker

HI

 

I have SS V1 that has been fine up till around Xmas '14, then I lost the 3G signal. Just got round to doing some PD, but still no joy with gettin it working, Can you check to see it OK please.

 

I have the top 2 light on on it only

SS Serial number is - 21224723474

I have reset it 5 time now, change router port it plug's into, change cable between Router and SS, Done the speed test and that looks OK, download is 16.8 Mbps and upload is 1.08Mbps, this is the same as it has been for 2 years now. Also ran the PingPath, output below, agian looks OK. Looking at the portal for the SS in my account it looks OK as well.

 

Any ideas.

 

Tim


D:\Program Files\Console2>pathping 212.183.133.181

Tracing route to 212.183.133.181 over a maximum of 30 hops

  0  Tims-W540.THNetwork.NetBod.Net [10.255.20.17]
  1  10.255.20.254
  2  10.255.10.1
  3  host81-139-192-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.139.192.1]
  4  213.120.182.141
  5  213.120.161.82
  6  31.55.164.9
  7  31.55.164.107
  8  acc1-10GigE-0-2-0-6.bm.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.248.108]
  9  core2-te-0-10-0-7.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.248.18]
 10  peer1-xe3-0-1.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.254.219]
 11  lndgw2.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.124]
 12  85.205.0.86
 13     *        *        *
Computing statistics for 300 seconds...
            Source to Here   This Node/Link
Hop  RTT    Lost/Sent = Pct  Lost/Sent = Pct  Address
  0                                           Tims-W540.THNetwork.NetBod.Net [10.255.20.17]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  1    3ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  10.255.20.254
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  2    2ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  10.255.10.1
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  3   31ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  host81-139-192-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.139.192.1]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  4   24ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  213.120.182.141
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  5   18ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  213.120.161.82
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  6   19ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  31.55.164.9
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  7   18ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  31.55.164.107
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  8   19ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  acc1-10GigE-0-2-0-6.bm.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.248.108]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
  9   25ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  core2-te-0-10-0-7.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.248.18]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 10   24ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  peer1-xe3-0-1.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.254.219]
                                0/ 100 =  0%   |
 11   28ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  lndgw2.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.124]
                              100/ 100 =100%   |
 12  ---     100/ 100 =100%     0/ 100 =  0%  85.205.0.86

Trace complete.

 

cineriv
16: Advanced member
16: Advanced member

Hi Tim,

As you say, everything looks OK at your end.

Being a V1, I would suggest you try a new power suppy. they are now failing rapidly because of age.

 

Don't be misled by the power led showing as normal.

The first post on this thread gives a bit more detail .....

http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Vodafone-Sure-Signal/SureSignal-1-flashing-but-not-working-possible-f...

 

Replacement power supplies are readily available from Amazon or Ebay for around £10 or less.

Just search for 'Sure Signal power supply'

 

Regards,

Mike.

 

 

HI MIe,

 

OK I'll give that a go when I get back home at the weekend and let you know.

 

Thanks

 

Tim

Hi Mike

 

That did the job, all up and running OK again now.

 

Thanks

 

Tim

BenH
2: Seeker
2: Seeker

Hi

 

I have a SSV1 which is showing solid green for lights 1 and 2, but nothing for lights 3 and 4. I have 3 devices I am trying to connect (2 Samsung A3s and a BlackBerry).

 

pathping 212.183.133.181

Tracing route to 212.183.133.181 over a maximum of 30 hops

0 Home.lan [192.168.1.67]
1 dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 lo0-central10.ptn-ag01.plus.net [195.166.128.190]
3 link-b-central10.ptn-gw02.plus.net [212.159.2.130]
4 xe-5-2-0.ptw-cr02.plus.net [212.159.0.106]
5 ae2.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.4]
6 ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]
7 85.205.0.86
8 * * *
Computing statistics for 175 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 Home.lan [192.168.1.67]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 2ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 54ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% lo0-central10.ptn-ag01.plus.net [1
95.166.128.190]
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 47ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% link-b-central10.ptn-gw02.plus.net
[212.159.2.130]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 51ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% xe-5-2-0.ptw-cr02.plus.net [212.15
9.0.106]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 49ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae2.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129
.4]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.20
9]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 49ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 85.205.0.86

Trace complete.

 

IP is 91.125.100.46
SS serial number is 21231537826

 

My ISP is PlusNet, and I'm using a Thomson TG585 v7 router.

Ben_H
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

Hi @BenH

 

Please include your speed test results from here.

 

I'll then have someone to check the results for you.

 

Thanks
Ben



BenH
2: Seeker
2: Seeker
Thanks, I've since managed to resolve the issue.

Regards,

Ben