Vodafone connect router DHCP settings

[mattman]

I have posted this into off topic as I can not see any reference to Vodafone Home phone and Broadband.

I have install the router and all is working but there one thing that is missing from the setting of the VDSL router that being a function to turn off DHCP, I have for the pasted 10 year had my own network running at home with a fully working server that is my DHCP & DNS server but for the first time in history I have just sign up for 18 month and got a bloody router that has no function in the GUI settings pages to turn OFF the DHCP server. So for now I will have to wait for 18 months before I can change ISP. thanks vodafone tech team for missing this one. If there is anyone out there that can offer me a firmware update to give me the function to turn OFF DHCP then please post it.

[brutos08]

@Soofla Yes live Chat but you need to give a concrete reason saying i dont want to use your router isnt good enough. I gave solid reason backed up by i will cancel now and you can refund my money within 2 minutes i got my details

[displaced]

I should probably clarify that! The VF box will never work downstream of another modem, but having your PPPoE details will allow you to use a 3rd party router behind the Openreach modem (or a different modem/router combo unit)

[displaced]

It's a bit Catch-22 for ISPs. Given Openreach are responsible for the connection, the only thing that ISPs can differentiate themselves on is price and the capabilities of their modem/routers. This has been happening on ADSL for years.

Problem is, with Fibre/VDSL, Openreach's ownership of the physical lines becomes even more important. There are two manufacturers' equipment (Huawei, ECI) used in fibre cabs across the country, whose behaviour and capabilities are set by OR. For example, G.INP noise protection is supported on Huawei cabs, but not (currently) ECI. All the time OR provided and maintained the modems, there was a reasonable expectation that any firmware/config changes on the cab side would be matched by any necessary tweaks to the modem config/firmware.

Now with any old LLU provider like Vodafone wanting to standardise on a single modem/router, I'm not certain there'll be that same level of integration/compatibility between the customer equipment and the gear in the cab.

Personally, I reckon every Fibre ISP should offer the customer (at a minimum) the option of using their own router or their router + an OR-supplied modem. Bonus points for allowing any 3rd party equipment for users happy to monitor the line themselves.

As increasing speeds continue to 'sweat' the decades-old copper network, compatibility between equipment at the two ends is going to be increasingly bumping into edge-cases.

Still. It is what it is. I can only hope that the aggro of keeping multiple router models working well with VDSL and later G.fast becomes so onerous that proper fibre-to-the-home or fibre-to-the-distribution-point happens sooner rather than later.

[Soofla]

I may try and see if I can be one of the lucky ones and get my username/password and look into my own equipment.

I have an Openreach modem which I could pair with a router of some description.

Alternatively - does anyone rate the Draytek 2760? Wireless is of no concequence to me as I use Ubiquity WiFi points, so any router with WiFi would ahve that feature switched off.

[machare]

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@displaced wrote:
It's a bit Catch-22 for ISPs. Given Openreach are responsible for the connection, the only thing that ISPs can differentiate themselves on is price and the capabilities of their modem/routers. This has been happening on ADSL for years.

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The capacity of the backhaul is a very big differentiator. At a small Market A exchange, the likes of BT and Plusnet will probably have adequate backhaul. An ISP such as the Post Office, who use Talk Talk for backhaul may not. The Post Office allowed me to cancel a contract bcause their service was unusable in the evening.

[displaced]

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@machare wrote:

The capacity of the backhaul is a very big differentiator. At a small Market A exchange, the likes of BT and Plusnet will probably have adequate backhaul. An ISP such as the Post Office, who use Talk Talk for backhaul may not. The Post Office allowed me to cancel a contract bcause their service was unusable in the evening.

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Ah, very good point!  Still, if the ISP's equipment performs badly on a line, then their backhaul capacity will be moot.  

I was reading a discussion on enabling Vectoring (similar in purpose to G.INP) over on kitz.co.uk.  One of the limiting factors for it is that the firmware on LLU providers' modems would need to be compatible.  So, gone are the days when BTOR could plan and perform a synchronised release of a speed-enhancing feature to the cabinets and the users' modems.  Now, they'll need to navigate the minefield of a bunch of different ISP's end-user equipment whenever they want to release something new.

[csiwek]

with HG612 you at least know what are the line capabilities

[arcticicecool]

DD WRT would be awesome on the vodafone connect router.
Shame its h/w is let down by the firmware.

[brutos08]

Thanks an extremely good line hope mine is as good

[csiwek]

the cabinet I'm connected to is just across the road. Perhaps they shuld just allow connecting with the maximum speed 🙂