How to Set up a third party router with vodafone

[gipjon]

IF YOU ARE USING A THIRD-PARTY ROUTER THAT WORKS 100% WITHOUT BUGS.PLEASE PM ME THE MAKE AND MODEL SO I CAN UPDATE THE LIST

The first thing you need to do is ask Vodafone for your username and password. live chat with Vodafone is best because you can copy and paste the name and password into the router. ( some users did write it down wrong. password is lower and upper case. username watch out for zero and o )

https://www.vodafone.co.uk/contact-us/index.htm

https://www.vodafone.co.uk/bbservcd/

FTTC SETTING         ( FTTP is below FTTC)

The setting is the same for all the routers it's down to the isp (the setting page will be laid out differently but the setting are still the same, eg

Vodafone setting are

Vlan ID - 101

enable 802.1q (not on every router)

Username  - ******@broadband.vodafone.co.uk

Username - ******@businessbroadband.vodafone.co.uk  ( for business customers )

Password - ********

PPPoE

MTU Size : 1492

rest of the setting auto detect when the router and the dslam are negotiating with each other

List of third party router that work well with vodafone will update as more router are confirmed working 100%

asus ac68u                              ADSL and VDSL router with Ethernet + dual band Wifi 

ASUS DSL-AC55U                   ADSL and VDSL router with Ethernet + dual-band Wifi 

DrayTek Vigor 130:                 ADSL and VDSL modem with Ethernet ( UK model )

Draytek 2762 VDSL

Draytek 2862 Series

Fritzbox 3490

technicolor tg589vac :             ADSL and VDSL router with Ethernet + dual-band Wifi 

Netgear D6400-100UKS         ADSL & VDSL router with Ethernet + dual-band AC1600 Wifi  + beamforming

Netgear rbk40  :                       ADSL and VDSL router with Ethernet + Tri-Band technology

Netgear D6220                        ADSL and VDSL router with Ethernet + dual band Wifi 

Netgear Nighthawk D7800    ADSL and VDSL router with Ethernet + dual band Wifi 

Technicolor DGA4231/DGA2231 is actually the Vodafone THC3000/THC3000g

TP-Link Archer VR2800

TP-Link AC 1600                      ADSL and VDSL router with Ethernet + dual-band Wifi 

TP-Link TL-Link Archer VR400 V3 AC1200 Wireless MU-MIMO Dual Band

TP-Link VR600                        ADSL and VDSL router with Ethernet + dual-band Wifi 

TP-Link W9970                        ADSL and VDSL router with Ethernet + dual-band Wifi 

Zyxel VMG3925-B10B

List of routers with WIFI 6 that works well  

None listed as yet 

IF YOU ARE USING A THIRD-PARTY ROUTER THAT WORKS 100% WITHOUT BUGS.PLEASE PM ME THE MAKE AND MODEL SO I CAN UPDATE THE LIST

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Gigafast 

Openreach the VLAN will be 101 or not required

CityFibre, the VLAN will be 911 or possibly not used.

Mtu 1492

PPPoE 

Username - *******

Password - ********

List of routers that works well with Gigafast

Asus RT-AC86U 

Cisco 5506-X

Linksys EA9500

netgear nighthawk ar500

FRITZ!Box 7530

TP-link M4 deco system

TP-Link Archer AC2300 MU-MIMO Wi-Fi Gigabit Router (Plug ONT cable into Internet port, run Autodetect > PPPoE > add username/pass = connected at full speed), no need for VLAN IDs

TP-Link Archer VR400 V3 AC1200 Wireless MU-MIMO Dual Band (1st Advanced tab, change the Operation Mode to Wireless Router Mode (the ONT is acting as a modem, hence it will not work if you are in DLS Modem Router Mode). 2nd  Do not enable VLAN ID or it will not work! Vodafone will tell you to set it to 101, if you do this it will not work! Keep the default MTU size (1480), do not change it to 1492, as suggested in several posts in this thread, or it will not work!. 

Synolgy RT2600ac ( https://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Broadband-connection/Synology-RT2600ac-Vodafone-Router-CityFibre-PPP... )

List of routers with WIFI 6  that works well 

RT-AX86U ?

(from user) I managed to connect Asus DSL-AX82U modem/router and use it without Vodafone Wi-Fi hub finally. When use Asus router tutorial choose network provider as BT - Infinity. VLAN ID come up automatically as 101 then just copy your Vodafone username and password

[Jayach]

Oops, sorry I missed a couple of posts there, as they were over the page.

Must check the page numbers before I post.

[delpy8]

No worries, yes all working with no problems at all, I have the Archer ax6000 v1 version with latest firmware so not sure if that's something to do with it?

I'm only using the wifi and direct connections to a switch too. 

[pandaman888]

What VF package ae you on and what speed tests do you get with the new router?

[Zedster]

I'm not sure who the question is aimed at but here's my setup

Pro II full fibre 900

Router ASUS AX58U V2

City Fibre network

As for speeds it really depends on what time of day you do the test as this varies a great deal in my experience but I've had well over 800mb on both download and upload so well happy  

[delpy8]

900 pro and getting close to that  

[pandaman888]

Are you on the cityfibre network or the openreach network?  

I may look at the TP-link Archer AX6000. 

So far my attempts to use 3rd party routers on the VF/Cityfibre network have yielded quite poor performance with the 900mb package.

My original router was an Asus AC87 which only able to get around 500-600mb download.  Similarly, the Draytek 2865 had the same speeds.  I then tried an mini PC router with OPNsense installed and that had slight improved to 700mb.  Only the original VF supplied THG3000 can consistently get the full 900mb download during testing. 

[crackie]

Hi, just want to leave my own experience here.

I just switched from Plusnet FTTC to Vodafone FTTC. I stay using my Plusnet Homehub 2 in bridge mode with my Asus XT8 without any problem. PPPoE settings as always BUT no vlan settings are required. vlan 101 will result in broadband not connecting. I guess it's the reason the BT/ Plusnet modem is default using vlan 101 and any additional settings will make a crash.

I am happy the Plusnet modem just works and I don't need to buy an extra modem to ditch the original one :D.

[CrimsonLiar]

That's interesting, as the BT consumer version of the same device - Smart Hub 2 (SH2)- doesn't have a bridge mode (the business version apparently does).  Even with settings that should allow the SH2 to work nicely with other kit, it tends not to!

[crackie]

Indeed, actually i joined plusnet for the bridge mode modem in the first place. Heard the BT SH2 is locked and not usable in other broadband, but there is little to none people actually reports using Plusnet SH2 in other broadbands.  Usually i am a read-only user, but i am happy to share and let fellow users know it works!

This is my second day using this setup and i find no problems at all with wfh vpn / gaming/ surfing.

[Jayach]

Wow, that chap does like to talk, even on double speed it went on forever. (I really dislike YouTube videos for that very reason)

Is the Netgear really better? It seems to be a fairly basic router. It appears to be an older design than the THG3000. What about it do you find "better"

What you are trying to achieve is the second method he describes, so the first example doesn't apply to you, so only follow his description from 10:35 - Double NAT Setup with Phone Line

Personally I always try to stay away from double NAT, but many people use it without problems.

So, if you follow his method, what doesn't work for you?

Oh, and are you on FTTC or FTTP?