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Sure Signal not transmitting a 3G signal

Retired-George
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

This issue presents the following symptoms:

 

For version 1 Sure Signal (the one with four lights on the front):

  • Lights one and two are solid which indicates the Sure Signal is connected, but isn't giving a 3G signal.
  • Light four doesn’t light up or lights occasionally and then goes out at certain times of day.

 

For version 2 Sure Signal (the one with 3 lights on the front): 

  • The power and system lights are both solid, indicating that the Sure Signal is giving a 3G signal.
  • Your registered phones don’t pick up a 3G signal.

 

For version 3 Sure Signal (the plug in version):

  • Power, internet and service lights are solid and the ‘in use’ light is either solid or flashing
  • Your registered phones don’t pick up a 3G signal

 

Troubleshooting steps:

Check that your broadband connection meets our minimum requirements.
Please run the broadband speed checker.


If your connection fails any part of the test, this indicates an issue with your Internet Service Provider (ISP) and you’ll need to contact them to discuss this.

 

Your connection speed will vary throughout the day, so we recommend running it at various times to get an accurate reading.

 

To ensure the Sure Signal broadcasts at the correct frequency, it sends and receives small amounts of data to a Network Time Protocol Server hosted by ourselves. If these packets of data take longer than 240ms to make a round-trip, the accuracy can no longer be ensured and so the Sure Signal will automatically stop broadcasting and light four will go out.

 

Check for planned maintenance.

Planned maintenance can cause periods of downtime, so check the forum for any planned maintenance. If there is, this will be announced at the top of the Sure Signal forum.

 

Reset your Sure Signal:

 

  1. Hold in the reset button until all lights go solid
  2. Pull the power lead out with the reset button still pushed in
  3. Continue to hold down the reset button and reconnect the power lead
  4. Wait for all lights to come on and then release the reset button

 

The Sure Signal will be back online in around 1 hour.

 

Configure your Router Firewall.
The IP address and ports used for NTP (Network Time Protocol) synchronisation are listed below. You may need these to configure the correct firewall settings on your router.

 

This step isn’t usually necessary, but it may help if you’re using a complex network (such as a corporate or office LAN), or a complex router.

 

We recommend contacting your ISP or router manufacturer directly for detailed instructions on exactly how to change your router settings. Alternatively, select your router make and model over at http://portforward.com and follow the default guide there.

Destination IP addresses:

  • 212.183.133.181
  • 212.183.133.182
  • 212.183.131.128/26

 

  • Protocol = UDP
  • Port = 123


Please note that in the list of IP addresses above, the notation "212.183.131.128/26"means the entire range of IP addresses between 212.183.131.128 and 212.183.131.191

 

Perform a PathPing to our server.

In order to check if the Sure Signal's able to communicate with our NTP server, a PathPing can be performed as a test. In order to do this, you'll need to open the command prompt in Windows as follows:

  • For XP just click Start > Run and type cmd then hit enter
  • For Vista/Windows 7, press Start and type 'cmd' into the search bar
  • Right click the result and click ‘Run As Administrator’


Once you're in the command prompt, type in PathPing 212.183.133.181. This will perform a trace route to the NTP server and will show you the route it took to get there. One of the columns will display packet loss, if this occurs before hitting our server, you'll need to contact your ISP for further assistance.

 

If you've completed all the troubleshooting steps above and not identified the cause of the issue, your Sure Signal may be faulty. Please post in this thread and we can look into it further.

 

Thanks,

 

Jenny

1 ACCEPTED SOLUTION

Hello

 

serial number 21224717989 version 1

 

the sure signal stopped working a few days ago after a lont internet outage (2 hours), presented with only light 1 flashing.

 

I have done a little troubleshooting and have now manged to get to light 1 and 2 solid.

 

how is it looking from your end?

 

 

Internet speed >5 Mbps ping normally <55ms.

 

pathping 

C:\WINDOWS\system32>pathping 212.183.133.181

Tracing route to 212.183.133.181 over a maximum of 30 hops

0 XPS-M133064BIT.int.hillblock.com [192.168.1.104]
1 WRT54GL [192.168.1.251]
2 192.168.1.250
3 losubs.subs.dsl5.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.83.10]
4 no-dns-yet-62-3-86-29.zen.co.uk [62.3.86.29]
5 ge-2-0-0-0.cr1.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.49]
6 ge-3-0-0-0.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.45]
7 ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]
8 85.205.116.14
9 * * *
Computing statistics for 200 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 XPS-M133064BIT.int.hillblock.com [192.168.1.104]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% WRT54GL [192.168.1.251]
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.1.250
1/ 100 = 1% |
3 44ms 2/ 100 = 2% 1/ 100 = 1% losubs.subs.dsl5.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.83.10]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 45ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% no-dns-yet-62-3-86-29.zen.co.uk [62.3.86.29]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 46ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% ge-2-0-0-0.cr1.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.49]
1/ 100 = 1% |
6 54ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% ge-3-0-0-0.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.45]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 54ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]
98/ 100 = 98% |
8 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% 85.205.116.14

Trace complete.

 

Can you see the sure signal from your end?

 

Thanks in advance

IAn

 

 

FIXED

 

Came back about an hour later and it is working OK

 

Don't you just hate it when that happens

 

Ian

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Hi logitech,

 

I’ve spoken with our technical support team and they’re unable to ping your Sure Signal.

 

This suggests that it’s not able to create a stable connection to our servers.

 

Try a full factory reset to see if this helps:-

 

  • Hold down the reset button until all the lights show/flash (about 30 seconds)
  • Keeping the reset button held down, remove both the Ethernet cable and power lead
  • Re-insert the power lead
  • Once all the lights display, release the reset button
  • Re-insert the Ethernet cable.

 

If it doesn’t, the next option would be to try the device in a different location such as a family member or friend’s house.

 

Let me know how you get on.

 

Cheers,

 

Andy

Hi

 

Thanks for getting back

 

I currently block wan side - I will enable them tonight and try the reset you sugested

 

Can you confirm my Ip is whitelisted and when my suresignal last registerd sucessfully and finally whether it has the latest firmware last time it registerd

 

Thanks

 

 

I have enabled wan side pings and put the vodafone into the DMZ

 

You should now be able to ping my VSS

 

When did it last register and when it did did it have the current firmware

 

Thanks

In desparation I have tried rebooting everything

 

my IP address is now  81.159.240.153

 

and using online ping test  from a german site can now ping it fine

 

It has the top two lights solid on  and has had for at least an hour so at least it seems to being staying connected

- now if if it would just actually fully work then that would be great 

Gemma
Community Manager
Community Manager

Hi logitech,

 

I can see your Sure Signal made contact with the network at 12:10 am today.

 

Please can you confirm if it’s working fully now?

 

Thanks,

 

Gemma

 

Hi Gemma

 

I just tried pinging it from my work and it seems to be down again as I can ping other sites fine

 

Do you know what time it disconnected and whether its firmware is up to date

 

Thanks

Ben_H
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

Hi logitech,

Your Sure Signal firmware is up to date. Although it's connecting to our servers, we're not getting information back from it. 

So we can rule out a faulty unit, try testing it for an hour on an alternative ISP at a friend or relatives house. If it still doesn't work there, we can arrange an out of warranty repair or you can buy a new Sure Signal.


Cheers, Ben

Hi

 

My Suresignal 1 box has stopped working. serial number 21231541778 Sagem BSR Femto

 

I have checked the speed, ports are open and I have reset several times.

 

I get lights one and two solid, then light 4 flashes. It then continues to reset itself several times then all I get is a solid 1st light

 

Here is the ping results

 

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.3.9600]
(c) 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Kerry>pathping 212.183.133.181

Tracing route to 212.183.133.181 over a maximum of 30 hops

0 Kerry.Home [192.168.0.7]
1 SkyRouter.Home [192.168.0.1]
2 97e70003.skybroadband.com [151.231.0.3]
3 0278098e.bb.sky.com [2.120.9.142]
4 ae51.edge6.London1.Level3.net [212.113.9.53]
5 vl-3514-ve-128.csw1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.166.70]
6 ae-116-3502.edge3.London1.Level3.net [4.69.166.134]
7 CABLE-WIREL.edge3.London1.Level3.net [195.50.124.138]
8 195.2.30.61
9 * * *
Computing statistics for 200 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 Kerry.Home [192.168.0.7]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 14ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% SkyRouter.Home [192.168.0.1]
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 30ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 97e70003.skybroadband.com [151.231
.0.3]
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 0278098e.bb.sky.com [2.120.9.142]

0/ 100 = 0% |
4 37ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae51.edge6.London1.Level3.net [212
.113.9.53]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 36ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% vl-3514-ve-128.csw1.London1.Level3
.net [4.69.166.70]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 36ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae-116-3502.edge3.London1.Level3.n
et [4.69.166.134]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 32ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% CABLE-WIREL.edge3.London1.Level3.n
et [195.50.124.138]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 27ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 195.2.30.61

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Kerry>

Hi kerryc1968,

 

Everything looks fine with the registration and the tests that you’ve done.

 

The first thing to try is a full reset using the instructions below.

 

If this doesn’t work, are you able to try a different power adapter because we’ve seen this light sequence being caused by a faulty power adapter?

 

Reset your Sure Signal:

 

-Hold in the reset button until all lights go solid

-Pull the power lead and the Ethernet cable out with the reset button still pushed in

-Continue to hold down the reset button and reconnect the power lead

-Wait for the lights to come on and then release the reset button

-Plug the Ethernet cable back in.

 

Your Sure signal should come back online within one hour.

 

 

James

Changed the power supply and after a full reset I am now back up and running. Thank you James