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Sure Signal not transmitting a 3G signal

Retired-George
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This issue presents the following symptoms:

 

For version 1 Sure Signal (the one with four lights on the front):

  • Lights one and two are solid which indicates the Sure Signal is connected, but isn't giving a 3G signal.
  • Light four doesn’t light up or lights occasionally and then goes out at certain times of day.

 

For version 2 Sure Signal (the one with 3 lights on the front): 

  • The power and system lights are both solid, indicating that the Sure Signal is giving a 3G signal.
  • Your registered phones don’t pick up a 3G signal.

 

For version 3 Sure Signal (the plug in version):

  • Power, internet and service lights are solid and the ‘in use’ light is either solid or flashing
  • Your registered phones don’t pick up a 3G signal

 

Troubleshooting steps:

Check that your broadband connection meets our minimum requirements.
Please run the broadband speed checker.


If your connection fails any part of the test, this indicates an issue with your Internet Service Provider (ISP) and you’ll need to contact them to discuss this.

 

Your connection speed will vary throughout the day, so we recommend running it at various times to get an accurate reading.

 

To ensure the Sure Signal broadcasts at the correct frequency, it sends and receives small amounts of data to a Network Time Protocol Server hosted by ourselves. If these packets of data take longer than 240ms to make a round-trip, the accuracy can no longer be ensured and so the Sure Signal will automatically stop broadcasting and light four will go out.

 

Check for planned maintenance.

Planned maintenance can cause periods of downtime, so check the forum for any planned maintenance. If there is, this will be announced at the top of the Sure Signal forum.

 

Reset your Sure Signal:

 

  1. Hold in the reset button until all lights go solid
  2. Pull the power lead out with the reset button still pushed in
  3. Continue to hold down the reset button and reconnect the power lead
  4. Wait for all lights to come on and then release the reset button

 

The Sure Signal will be back online in around 1 hour.

 

Configure your Router Firewall.
The IP address and ports used for NTP (Network Time Protocol) synchronisation are listed below. You may need these to configure the correct firewall settings on your router.

 

This step isn’t usually necessary, but it may help if you’re using a complex network (such as a corporate or office LAN), or a complex router.

 

We recommend contacting your ISP or router manufacturer directly for detailed instructions on exactly how to change your router settings. Alternatively, select your router make and model over at http://portforward.com and follow the default guide there.

Destination IP addresses:

  • 212.183.133.181
  • 212.183.133.182
  • 212.183.131.128/26

 

  • Protocol = UDP
  • Port = 123


Please note that in the list of IP addresses above, the notation "212.183.131.128/26"means the entire range of IP addresses between 212.183.131.128 and 212.183.131.191

 

Perform a PathPing to our server.

In order to check if the Sure Signal's able to communicate with our NTP server, a PathPing can be performed as a test. In order to do this, you'll need to open the command prompt in Windows as follows:

  • For XP just click Start > Run and type cmd then hit enter
  • For Vista/Windows 7, press Start and type 'cmd' into the search bar
  • Right click the result and click ‘Run As Administrator’


Once you're in the command prompt, type in PathPing 212.183.133.181. This will perform a trace route to the NTP server and will show you the route it took to get there. One of the columns will display packet loss, if this occurs before hitting our server, you'll need to contact your ISP for further assistance.

 

If you've completed all the troubleshooting steps above and not identified the cause of the issue, your Sure Signal may be faulty. Please post in this thread and we can look into it further.

 

Thanks,

 

Jenny

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Hello

 

serial number 21224717989 version 1

 

the sure signal stopped working a few days ago after a lont internet outage (2 hours), presented with only light 1 flashing.

 

I have done a little troubleshooting and have now manged to get to light 1 and 2 solid.

 

how is it looking from your end?

 

 

Internet speed >5 Mbps ping normally <55ms.

 

pathping 

C:\WINDOWS\system32>pathping 212.183.133.181

Tracing route to 212.183.133.181 over a maximum of 30 hops

0 XPS-M133064BIT.int.hillblock.com [192.168.1.104]
1 WRT54GL [192.168.1.251]
2 192.168.1.250
3 losubs.subs.dsl5.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.83.10]
4 no-dns-yet-62-3-86-29.zen.co.uk [62.3.86.29]
5 ge-2-0-0-0.cr1.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.49]
6 ge-3-0-0-0.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.45]
7 ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]
8 85.205.116.14
9 * * *
Computing statistics for 200 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 XPS-M133064BIT.int.hillblock.com [192.168.1.104]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% WRT54GL [192.168.1.251]
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.1.250
1/ 100 = 1% |
3 44ms 2/ 100 = 2% 1/ 100 = 1% losubs.subs.dsl5.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.83.10]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 45ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% no-dns-yet-62-3-86-29.zen.co.uk [62.3.86.29]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 46ms 1/ 100 = 1% 0/ 100 = 0% ge-2-0-0-0.cr1.wh-man.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.49]
1/ 100 = 1% |
6 54ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% ge-3-0-0-0.cr2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.45]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 54ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% ldngw1.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.209]
98/ 100 = 98% |
8 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% 85.205.116.14

Trace complete.

 

Can you see the sure signal from your end?

 

Thanks in advance

IAn

 

 

FIXED

 

Came back about an hour later and it is working OK

 

Don't you just hate it when that happens

 

Ian

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ocorton
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Hi Simon, thank you for your reply.
I've changed the Ethernet cable but now the SS won't connect at all (Power - flashing, Internet - solid orange, In Service - off, In Use - solid orange).

I've followed the troubleshooting guide for this issue several times previously as I was having this problem before? Nothing worked, but the SS randomly started working itself one day, however only giving out intermittent 3G signals (as per my previous post).

Thanks again.

DaveCD
Moderator (Retired)
Moderator (Retired)

Hi ocorton,

 

This sequence of lights indicates poor network performance from your internet.

 

Please try this on a different port on your router.

 

I would also recommend connecting the Sure Signal to your router without any other devices attached, then add your other connected devices back one at a time to see when the difficulties start.

 

If this is still ongoing, please contact your ISP so they can perform checks on your line.

 

DaveCD

andyskye
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have tried ping test and port forwarding to no availe

andy

HI. I have a sure signal 1. I ahve a steady power light and a flasj=hing network light. I've tried fatory reset. The internet connection is fine and the ping test works OK too. Can you please do a sync from your end. The system went down on Friday evening (update at your end as nothing has changed here!). THe serial number is 40121013896. Thanks 

 

Andy

 

MichaelDann
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Have Sure signal V1 which has been working fine for months (if not years) until this weekend and I'm now having to reset it probably every two hours. I get a solid 1& 2 light and nothing else - once reset it comes back on and works fine and then goes back to just 1&2 solid again. Living in a rural area I rely on my Sure signal for my work mobile so this is quite annoying. Does it need an update I wonder S/NO 21197035682

 

Please help

 

Michael

stuartlbaker
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Hi,

Everyday, and sometime twice a day, my sure signal (21230516730) loses connection. It loses the 4th light and has just lights 1 and 2 on green. i then have to reset it, and it works for a few hours, and then loses the 4th light again.

 

I have checked my internet connection and speeds history and all is fine there.

 

I have carried out a PathPing and got the following:

 

Tracing route to 212.183.133.181 over a maximum of 30 hops

 

  0  BakersLaptop-HP.home [192.168.1.88]

  1  api.home [192.168.1.254]

  2  esr4.faraday2.broadband.bt.net [217.47.45.143]

  3  217.47.45.30

  4  213.1.69.6

  5  217.41.168.102

  6  217.41.168.41

  7  217.41.168.107

  8  acc1-10GigE-0-7-0-4.l-far.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.249.74]

  9  core1-te0-7-0-6.faraday.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.249.19]

 10  peer1-xe8-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.254.173]

 11  lndgw2.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.124]

 12  85.205.0.86

 13     *        *        *

Computing statistics for 300 seconds...

            Source to Here   This Node/Link

Hop RTT    Lost/Sent = Pct  Lost/Sent = Pct  Address

       BakersLaptop-HP.home [192.168.1.88]   0/ 100 =  0%   |

  1    2ms   0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  api.home [192.168.1.254] 0/ 100 =  0%   |

  2   51ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  esr4.faraday2.broadband.bt.net [217.47.45.143] 0/ 100 =  0%   |

  3 ---     100/ 100 =100%  100/ 100 =100%  217.47.45.30 0/ 100 =  0%   |

  4   51ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  213.1.69.  0/ 100 =  0%   |

  5   52ms     0/ 100 =  0%    0/ 100 =  0%  217.41.168.102  0/ 100 =  0%   |

  6     ---     100/ 100 =100%  100/ 100 =100%  217.41.168.41  0/ 100 =  0%   |

  7   55ms     1/ 100 =  1%    1/ 100 =  1%  217.41.168.107  0/ 100 =  0%   |

  8   56ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  acc1-10GigE-0-7-0-4.l-far.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.249.74] 0/ 100 =  0%   |

  9   54ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  core1-te0-7-0-6.faraday.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.249.19]  0/ 100 =  0%   |

 10  58ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  peer1-xe8-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.254.173]  0/ 100 =  0%   |

 11  63ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  lndgw2.arcor-ip.net [195.66.224.124] 100/ 100 =100%   |

12 ---     100/ 100 =100%     0/ 100 =  0%  85.205.0.86

 

Trace complete.

 

Can you help please?

 

Thanks Stuart

 

Same here. After 4 years of trouble-free service no 3G signal. Have reset and followed all instructions twice and allowed 6 hours between each attempt. Please advise as I can no longer use my phone.

 

Thanks.

 

Serial Number 21229033911

Diagnostic data removed by poster.

Ralphbuk
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Is anyone from the tech team going to admit it is there problem?
It would be nice for confirmation and just let us know when it is going to be fixed.

Hi everyone,

 

Please see here, for further information and updates on this.

 

Thanks,

 

Sarah

"Please see here, for further information and updates on this."

 

Is it me or is this link from Sarah at the Tech Team posted 30/9 now dead?

 

What's happening, guys? I cannot receive Vodafone at my home without the Sure Signal. Do I have to swap providers to get a result?